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OWON CM2100B, is Uni-t ut210e inspired?
« on: May 30, 2023, 08:42:38 pm »
Hi, I see the new Owon C2100B is a current clamp with similar specs to ut210e, but with ensanched specs, but example, is 20000 counts model, it has bluetooth, and measure frequency. ut210e pro also measure frequency, but it has less counts. Does anyone know anything about this product?
 
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Re: OWON CM2100B, is Uni-t ut210e inspired?
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2023, 12:23:44 pm »
Prices' from an EU perspective (incl.25% VAT) seem to be around 40US for CM2100 & 58US for CM2100B (Harald Blåtand variant), so a tad more than UT210E, but also better specs.



Usermanual: https://files.owon.com.cn/probook/CM2100-Clamp-Ammeter%20User%20Manual.pdf

Source: https://www.owon.com.hk/products_cm2100_series_smart_ac%7Cdc__clamp_meter

Take the BT feature with a pinch of salt, OWONs app tends to be a mess and with no incentive to fix it, - their app-graphing feature on their multimeter-line 35series and 41series was bonafide broken, and would dance around wrongful segment values, and with no locked orientation on the graphing - at least that was the case in 2015/2016, - just checked the one on Google play, it's the same mess in 2023.
was this app  https://tinyurl.com/yc5ejf6v
Though the update rate, was not that bad for BT4.0 BLE in 2016 https://tinyurl.com/yjef97e9
Does not look like you can combine, the clamp meter with Owon DMMs, unless you have two different apps open, "Owons Multimeter BLE4.0 app" & "Owon IMeter app" that seems to be locked to only this clampmeter (CM2100B).. shame.

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Re: OWON CM2100B, is Uni-t ut210e inspired?
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2023, 06:31:45 pm »
I can see in the video, the owon is not has input protections at least like ut210e, ok, I will go with ut210e.
 

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Re: OWON CM2100B, is Uni-t ut210e inspired?
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2023, 10:12:00 pm »
I recently found the non-BT version on Amazon (US) for $30. There's not a lot of information on the web yet about this meter, so in case it helps anyone:
  • I bought this primarily for low current DC work. With proper zeroing, I found that accuracy in the 2A range is about 0.5%±3 counts on my unit, testing all the way from 1mA to 2000mA.
  • Low AC current accuracy seems similar to DC. Readings are within the specified ±3% up to 2kHz and the -3dB point is 3.2kHz.
  • I don't care much about the other features, but I also tested DC voltage, and found it accurate to better than 0.1% between 1V and 20V.
There are a few usability quirks and annoyances:
  • The meter beeps whenever you change range or push any button. I can't find a way to disable this.
  • Voltage defaults to DC, but current defaults to AC
  • The NCV alert takes about a second or two to trigger, so you have to make sure not to move the meter away too fast
 
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Re: OWON CM2100B, is Uni-t ut210e inspired?
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2023, 12:36:25 pm »
Here's a video comparing it to the UT210E:



Seems like OWON skimped on the protection side, which is a bummer. Even their high-end model (B41T+) have a very basic input protection.
 
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Re: OWON CM2100B, is Uni-t ut210e inspired?
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2023, 12:58:55 pm »
Bought it myself with 40$ in EU ( without bluetooth ), cheaper than UT210E.

Multimeter chipset is sanded off, it is known what chipset it is ?
 

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Re: OWON CM2100B, is Uni-t ut210e inspired?
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2023, 04:04:48 pm »
I'm going to try this unit; and my wish is that it will work with linux.

I have some bleak (python) sample code that works with the aneng an9002, and I'm hoping there is a variant of that python (or c++) that will work with the clamp meter ble protocol.

has anyone tried or found what version of proto it speaks?
 
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Re: OWON CM2100B, is Uni-t ut210e inspired?
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2023, 11:54:38 pm »
I'm happy to say, I've created a linux BLE app that works with this meter!

took an example owon ble app and hacked it so that it 'knows' this model's use of BLE.

I'll post it to my github once I clean the code up a bit more and do some more testing.  so far, though, it seems to be 100% functional and all values and icons are decoded.  no funky xor stuff and its not an 'lcd segments' kind of decode.  its proper mode bits and integer numbers (along with decimal place location and 'scale' multiplier).

if anyone has linux and this meter and wants to give it a try, ping me.  soon, I'll have a link to a github location.
 
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Re: OWON CM2100B, is Uni-t ut210e inspired?
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2023, 06:28:13 pm »
while trying to rev-eng this protocol, I wrote a little python tool that will show you column differences (in binary) for any of the BLE gatt payload bytes.  you run a log tool and save to a file.  as long as its a rectangular file (each column is the same length and the same format) it will do a line by line diff and highlight any bits that changed.   it can also run in '--sticky' mode, so that each change stays latched and by the end of your short run, you can see all the fields that changed, and which ones you can ignore.  I'll include that hack script along with the DMM code.

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Re: OWON CM2100B, is Uni-t ut210e inspired?
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2023, 10:51:19 pm »
go get it!

https://github.com/sercona/owon-cm2100b-clamp-meter

git clone it and build on linux.

let me know if you have issues/etc.
 
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Re: OWON CM2100B, is Uni-t ut210e inspired?
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2023, 04:06:11 pm »
update: code is now generalized to run with three types of owon meters!  it turns out that the protocol is nearly the same, with only a few differences.  the new code is still beta but most things seem to work.  testing still needed.


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Re: OWON CM2100B, is Uni-t ut210e inspired?
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2023, 06:28:55 pm »
Looks nice these owon instruments, what is your main use for them? For automotive applications can be safe its use
 

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Re: OWON CM2100B, is Uni-t ut210e inspired?
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2023, 03:35:32 pm »
yet another update.

turns out, they all pretty much use the same protocol, with minor changes.  got hold of a 4th owon model type (ow18e) and this one also matches the others (is more like the cm2100b since it uses the same ble handle-id).

updated source for all four:

https://github.com/sercona/Owon-Multimeters





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Re: OWON CM2100B, is Uni-t ut210e inspired?
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2023, 03:47:06 pm »
btw, the way to find out how to talk to these is to run gatttool (three 'T's in that word, sigh...)

Code: [Select]
$ gatttool -b A6:C0:80:E5:84:0C -I
[A6:C0:80:E5:84:0C][LE]> connect
Attempting to connect to A6:C0:80:E5:84:0C
Connection successful
Notification handle = 0x001b value: 24 f0 04 00 00 00
Notification handle = 0x001b value: 24 f0 04 00 00 00
Notification handle = 0x001b value: 24 f0 04 00 00 00
Notification handle = 0x001b value: 24 f0 04 00 00 00
Notification handle = 0x001b value: 24 f0 04 00 00 00
Notification handle = 0x001b value: 24 f0 04 00 00 00
Notification handle = 0x001b value: 24 f0 04 00 00 00
Notification handle = 0x001b value: 24 f0 04 00 00 00
[A6:C0:80:E5:84:0C][LE]> quit
$

that 0x001b is the key.  it can be that value or 0x002e.

from what I've seen, just by sniffing the BLE output, is that meters that use 1b are the cm2100b and the ow18e.  the two B meters (b35 and b41) use the 2e handle.

the 6 bytes are 99% the same between the meters.  I still need to find all the diffs (I think on the clamp meter vs the others, what continuity_open means is what the others see as continuity_closed.  some things are not the same, for some reason).  but the basics are there and it should be usable for all four of these models.

linux BLE has a habit of getting stuck, for some reason.  I found a resetter that you might need to use, if your commands are not working.

Code: [Select]
$ sudo python3 ./hci-resetter.py --now
Resetting HCI hci0
HCI hci0 has been reset

you can tell if you need that by trying a ble scan:

Code: [Select]
$ sudo hcitool lescan
Set scan parameters failed: Input/output error

if you see that error, try the resetter.

Code: [Select]
$ sudo hcitool lescan
LE Scan ...
12:A7:CE:34:9E:47 (unknown)
64:07:F6:96:0A:03 (unknown)
B2:5C:DA:F7:BC:B5 (unknown)
67:15:BB:2D:90:56 (unknown)
C8:69:CD:51:7B:A1 (unknown)
E8:49:8E:26:D1:5C (unknown)
...

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Re: OWON CM2100B, is Uni-t ut210e inspired?
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2023, 06:38:33 pm »
not sure if I'll keep all the new Owon's I bought.  I will likely keep the clamp meter and the b35t+ (best backlight).

here is all that I've collected over the years.  some, I bought new back when I was in college (80's). 

the two IBM flukes are my favorites and I dont use them; they only come out for photos.



but lately, I only buy meters that have remote access of some kind (serial, ble, whatever).

my eventual goal is to provide an ESP8266 (or esp32) web front end to all of the ones I can, so that multiple clients could poll multiple devices, as long as everyone's on the same wifi net.
 
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Re: OWON CM2100B, is Uni-t ut210e inspired?
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2024, 07:14:38 pm »
Any way to make it default to DC?

Does it already default to continuity tester?
 


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