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Offline agaelema

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #125 on: November 05, 2021, 04:16:06 am »
Thanks for the answers, but I was thinking about one thing and asked another...

Does the DMM perform RMS AC+DC measurements or just AC?
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #126 on: November 06, 2021, 06:30:32 pm »
Does the DMM perform RMS AC+DC measurements or just AC?

AC only. In DC mode the AC components are averaged.
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #127 on: November 08, 2021, 01:35:43 pm »
How do we get the latest firmware, to get the new features and bug fixes? Owon has firmware downloads for some products, but not this one.

Alternately, is there any way to dump the firmware from one scope, to upgrade another?
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #128 on: November 08, 2021, 05:27:45 pm »
How do we get the latest firmware, to get the new features and bug fixes? Owon has firmware downloads for some products, but not this one.
Send an email and ask for it. You can find their email address here: https://www.owon.com.hk/products_owon_hds200_series_digital_oscilloscope

A firmware version is only compatible with a serial number range, so you need to supply that.
My scope was bought before summer, shipped with version 1.6.0 and the newest supported firmware is 1.7.0, even though they now ship version 4.x.

It's a bit crappy of them I think.
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #129 on: November 12, 2021, 10:37:46 pm »
I found a bug in my hds242 (ver. 4.1.0) - measurments on ch.2 not working, simply showing in state OFF, have anybody noticed same thing?
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #130 on: November 14, 2021, 11:25:36 pm »
I figured out how to make it to work, thank you.
Great scope for it price, but I hope there is potential way to upgrade it to 72MHz version and add circuits to enable afg.
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #131 on: November 15, 2021, 10:37:44 am »
I figured out how to make it to work, thank you.
Great scope for it price, but I hope there is potential way to upgrade it to 72MHz version and add circuits to enable afg.
Looks like 40 and 70 MHz is the same (analog bw looks higher than 40 MHz on HDS242), just different probes bundled. But not sure.
And separate AFG is more handy for me and they generally more cabable. Also parcels to Ukraine for more than 100 EUR are imposed by custom taxes so basic model is more interesting in per dollar performance.
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #132 on: November 16, 2021, 10:28:42 am »
How do we get the latest firmware, to get the new features and bug fixes? Owon has firmware downloads for some products, but not this one.
Send an email and ask for it. You can find their email address here: https://www.owon.com.hk/products_owon_hds200_series_digital_oscilloscope

A firmware version is only compatible with a serial number range, so you need to supply that.
My scope was bought before summer, shipped with version 1.6.0 and the newest supported firmware is 1.7.0, even though they now ship version 4.x.

It's a bit crappy of them I think.

Have anyone of you had any success contacting them about firmware upgrade?
I wrote them an e-mail 8 days ago and also wrote through their web page after 3-4 days of my e-mail, still no response at all...
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #133 on: November 17, 2021, 01:48:01 pm »
Have anyone of you had any success contacting them about firmware upgrade?
I wrote them an e-mail 8 days ago and also wrote through their web page after 3-4 days of my e-mail, still no response at all...
Several have, including me. It's a bit of a hit and miss.

I got a firmware update, in my second attempt at contacting Owon. It took a week, with a reply after a few days asking me some questions like serial number.
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #134 on: November 17, 2021, 05:30:47 pm »
Received my HDS272S yesterday. Firmware version is: V4.2.0
Im really impressed with it for a handheld device.
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #135 on: November 18, 2021, 02:16:11 am »
Have anyone of you had any success contacting them about firmware upgrade?
I wrote them an e-mail 8 days ago and also wrote through their web page after 3-4 days of my e-mail, still no response at all...
Several have, including me. It's a bit of a hit and miss.

I got a firmware update, in my second attempt at contacting Owon. It took a week, with a reply after a few days asking me some questions like serial number.

I have sent them all the information needed at once.
However, yesterday they have replied me...

They told me my unit is the latest one, no need to be upgraded...
...then I have told I read about 4.1.0 which they replied that is because of the lack of some parts like LCD screen and they needed to replace some parts and that is why they needed a new firmware release...

I don't know how far it is true and its relation of BS but sounds interesting...

Also I really hope if they had to use other components, then they did it in a way what preserves hardware compatibility - it can be done if the firmware is not junk.
I doubt the only change is for a different LCD or other component(s)...
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #136 on: November 18, 2021, 07:14:45 pm »
Seems like a great meter.

Anyone tried to hack it from 40mhz to 70?

Anyway to add more waveform storage? or math functions?
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #137 on: November 20, 2021, 01:47:18 pm »
New hardware version of HDS272, HDS200 PCB MAIN V3.0 (2021-09-27) and firmware v5.1.1.



1327883-0

1327889-1



 
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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #138 on: November 20, 2021, 04:15:00 pm »
New hardware version of HDS272, HDS200 PCB MAIN V3.0 (2021-09-27) and firmware v5.1.1.

I wonder why there are so many PCB versions, I just checked mine and it's V2.20 (2021-09-09) Which is only a couple of weeks difference!
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #139 on: November 22, 2021, 11:45:20 am »
They told me my unit is the latest one, no need to be upgraded...
...then I have told I read about 4.1.0 which they replied that is because of the lack of some parts like LCD screen and they needed to replace some parts and that is why they needed a new firmware release...

I don't know how far it is true and its relation of BS but sounds interesting...

Also I really hope if they had to use other components, then they did it in a way what preserves hardware compatibility - it can be done if the firmware is not junk.
I doubt the only change is for a different LCD or other component(s)...
I tried to swap LCDs between pcb 1.0 (fw 1.8.0) and 2.1 (fw 4.1.0) scopes, resulted in shifted images in both, one right-down, another left-up, so it's displays was different and not 100% compatible, pcbs are different too, so maybe reason is not only LCD's difference.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2021, 11:51:10 am by Sobakin76 »
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #140 on: November 22, 2021, 12:05:39 pm »
Anyone tried to hack it from 40mhz to 70?
No need to BW hack, my HDS242 has resulting rise time not more than 5ns (include generator on SN74HC14 with 5-outs-in-parallel has about 2-3ns) which is 70MHz+ BW, just use proper probes.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2021, 12:09:22 pm by Sobakin76 »
 
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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #141 on: November 22, 2021, 12:45:09 pm »
Do all the software versions have the annoying "Quirk" where if you use "Auto" it will sometimes end up on CH2 even though CH2 is off? I'm getting fed up of going back in the CH menu to select CH1 again when I want to adjust the timebase etc.
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #142 on: November 25, 2021, 05:06:10 pm »
Any one seen and good BF/CM deals on the HDS242S?

Best I can find is ~ $129 with coupons for the HDS242s (was about $125 on 11.11)

TIA
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #143 on: December 04, 2021, 06:49:16 pm »
Hi, so I just got my Multicomp MP720781 from Farnell, which seems to be just a rebranded HDS242S with green rubber instead of blue.

If anyone is interested, my unit came with V2.0 (2021-03-24) main PCB and V3.0.0 firmware (they don't seem to sell trough a lot of these)
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #144 on: December 12, 2021, 05:05:23 am »
TheHWCave just released a review of the HDS272S:

#104 A closer look at the OWON HDS272S Scope meter -- TheHWCave
https://youtu.be/6v2UhBz3xZU


 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #145 on: December 13, 2021, 07:29:05 am »
Hi, tunk.

thx your reply.

The video mentions high refresh rates and not being able to see the modulated waveform clearly:
https://youtu.be/DTC1h2PWC8g?t=1418

HDS272S already  supported Low Refresh(My machine version is V5.3.0). Let's see how to set:
https://youtu.be/z4BaAnN0eFg
 
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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #146 on: December 13, 2021, 07:56:15 am »
Hi Trendx,

HDS272S already  supported Low Refresh(My machine version is V5.3.0). Let's see how to set:
https://youtu.be/z4BaAnN0eFg
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #147 on: December 13, 2021, 02:38:36 pm »
HDS272S already  supported Low Refresh(My machine version is V5.3.0). Let's see how to set:
https://youtu.be/z4BaAnN0eFg

I use mainly slow refresh mode because without intensity grading fast refresh in most cases is useless IMO.
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #148 on: December 14, 2021, 12:31:05 am »
I can't agree more, Intensity grading is improtant when in fast refresh mode.  but this model is difficult to implement due to resource limited.
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #149 on: December 16, 2021, 03:30:17 pm »
OWON HDS272s f/w 5.7.1, h/w 3.0, s/n 2152***
 
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