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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #500 on: December 17, 2022, 09:59:02 am »
What is the best probe for the HDS272S?
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #501 on: December 17, 2022, 12:31:14 pm »
Owon has increased the capabilities on the HDS2102S. it is now 500Msa/s per channel. it is also proven with the pics I posted earlier by me. 

Those pictures relates with HDS2202(S).
For some reason the unit might be marked as HDS2102 but in fact is a HDS2202.
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #502 on: December 17, 2022, 01:00:48 pm »
Owon has increased the capabilities on the HDS2102S. it is now 500Msa/s per channel. it is also proven with the pics I posted earlier by me. 

Those pictures relates with HDS2202(S).
For some reason the unit might be marked as HDS2102 but in fact is a HDS2202.
It is not a 2202. A 2202 would show 1Gsa/s on only 1 channel used. My 2102 does show 500Msa/s with only 1  channel in use (as well as 2 channels in use).
Furthermore, if it would be a 2202, the 200MHz signal would not be attenuated so much.
 
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #503 on: December 17, 2022, 02:15:13 pm »
I noticed that it now does 500Ms/s in two channel mode, see pics. It makes sense if you put in a 1Gs/s ADC in the thing.  :-+
Firmware is 2.0.4,
Serial nr HDS2102S2218XXX
Screenshots strongly suggests that 500MSa/s is true with two channels ON. This proves that 1) @Orange is lucky :-DMM and 2) new batch of OWON HDS2102(S) have dual channel 500MSa/s (or single channel 1GSa/s) ADC (contrary to current spec sheet). These HDS200 scopes keep changing and getting better :popcorn:
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #504 on: December 17, 2022, 04:12:04 pm »
My HDS2102S also can do 500MSa/s with both channels active. There was a setting I had to change to make that happen though... Unfortunately, I don't remember the setting, and I can't seem to find it now.

Mine is also 2.0.4 firmware.
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #505 on: December 17, 2022, 04:21:52 pm »
My HDS2102S also can do 500MSa/s with both channels active. There was a setting I had to change to make that happen though... Unfortunately, I don't remember the setting, and I can't seem to find it now.

Mine is also 2.0.4 firmware.
mine is ver 1.5.0, only upgradable to v1.5.1 from their website... V2.0.4 is not an option...

I noticed that it now does 500Ms/s in two channel mode, see pics. It makes sense if you put in a 1Gs/s ADC in the thing.  :-+
Firmware is 2.0.4,
Serial nr HDS2102S2218XXX
Screenshots strongly suggests that 500MSa/s is true with two channels ON. This proves that 1) @Orange is lucky :-DMM and 2) new batch of OWON HDS2102(S) have dual channel 500MSa/s (or single channel 1GSa/s) ADC (contrary to current spec sheet). These HDS200 scopes keep changing and getting better :popcorn:
i guess i bought my HDS2102S too early :palm:
Nature: Evolution and the Illusion of Randomness (Stephen L. Talbott): Its now indisputable that... organisms “expertise” contextualizes its genome, and its nonsense to say that these powers are under the control of the genome being contextualized - Barbara McClintock
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #506 on: December 17, 2022, 04:55:54 pm »
My HDS2102S also can do 500MSa/s with both channels active. There was a setting I had to change to make that happen though... Unfortunately, I don't remember the setting, and I can't seem to find it now.

Mine is also 2.0.4 firmware.
mine is ver 1.5.0, only upgradable to v1.5.1 from their website... V2.0.4 is not an option...

I noticed that it now does 500Ms/s in two channel mode, see pics. It makes sense if you put in a 1Gs/s ADC in the thing.  :-+
Firmware is 2.0.4,
Serial nr HDS2102S2218XXX
Screenshots strongly suggests that 500MSa/s is true with two channels ON. This proves that 1) @Orange is lucky :-DMM and 2) new batch of OWON HDS2102(S) have dual channel 500MSa/s (or single channel 1GSa/s) ADC (contrary to current spec sheet). These HDS200 scopes keep changing and getting better :popcorn:
i guess i bought my HDS2102S too early :palm:

This is one time that procrastinating looks like it worked out well to me. Of course now that the 2202s is out, I am slightly wishing I had that one simply for the rms measurement...
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #507 on: December 17, 2022, 05:14:31 pm »
This is one time that procrastinating looks like it worked out well to me. Of course now that the 2202s is out, I am slightly wishing I had that one simply for the rms measurement...
i've been on look out for ScopeMeter for years and i thought its time when i got HDS200 series into my radar... but i guess it will take forever to make a right choice. we cant be too lucky and we cant be too unlucky as well ::) life goes on..
Nature: Evolution and the Illusion of Randomness (Stephen L. Talbott): Its now indisputable that... organisms “expertise” contextualizes its genome, and its nonsense to say that these powers are under the control of the genome being contextualized - Barbara McClintock
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #508 on: December 17, 2022, 06:30:27 pm »
What is the best probe for the HDS272S?
You can use a Siglent PB470 they are of decent quality, and have an isolated BNC plug

https://www.eleshop.nl/siglent-pp215-passieve-probe-200-mhz-5198.html

I use two Siglent PP510 100MHz probes on the HDS2102S which I had left from an other Siglent scope.

 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #509 on: December 17, 2022, 06:42:25 pm »
This is one time that procrastinating looks like it worked out well to me. Of course now that the 2202s is out, I am slightly wishing I had that one simply for the rms measurement...
i've been on look out for ScopeMeter for years and i thought its time when i got HDS200 series into my radar... but i guess it will take forever to make a right choice. we cant be too lucky and we cant be too unlucky as well ::) life goes on..

Right. Everything is superseded the moment it is purchased. The best plan is to purchase, then stop looking or reading... :D
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #510 on: December 17, 2022, 07:26:40 pm »
but if there is hope to mod..
Nature: Evolution and the Illusion of Randomness (Stephen L. Talbott): Its now indisputable that... organisms “expertise” contextualizes its genome, and its nonsense to say that these powers are under the control of the genome being contextualized - Barbara McClintock
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #511 on: December 17, 2022, 09:47:44 pm »
but if there is hope to mod..

Everything can be modded! :)
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #512 on: December 18, 2022, 02:25:47 am »
My HDS2102S also can do 500MSa/s with both channels active.
You shoudn't trust an Owon unit until you test it.

PS: start to read this forum thread at page 1.  :P

 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #513 on: December 18, 2022, 02:45:38 am »
My HDS2102S also can do 500MSa/s with both channels active.
You shoudn't trust an Owon unit until you test it.

PS: start to read this forum thread at page 1.  :P

Eh. My Owon is my at home toy when I want a basic scope. Anything I do that needs a real scope I do at work on much nicer scopes. And I read this thread from page 1 before I bought my Owon. 😉
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #514 on: December 18, 2022, 08:26:17 am »
Can I use a 100 MHz probe with a 70 MHz HDS272S?
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #515 on: December 18, 2022, 08:56:45 am »
Can I use a 100 MHz probe with a 70 MHz HDS272S?
Yes, probe with BW of 70MHz or more will do and will not limit performance of a scope.
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #516 on: December 19, 2022, 11:44:48 am »
Can I use the OWON OC5010 AC/DC current probe together with the HDS272S?
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #517 on: December 19, 2022, 01:11:25 pm »
Can I use the OWON OC5010 AC/DC current probe together with the HDS272S?
yes you can use it.. even if different brand such as Hantek CC-65 AC/DC current probe, which is much cheaper, you can use.
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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #518 on: December 20, 2022, 06:25:13 am »
Can I use the OWON OC5010 AC/DC current probe together with the HDS272S?
yes you can use it.. even if different brand such as Hantek CC-65 AC/DC current probe, which is much cheaper, you can use.

Well thank you. That's what I wanted to hear.
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #519 on: December 20, 2022, 11:45:22 am »
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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #520 on: December 20, 2022, 01:35:09 pm »
it is for multimeter
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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #521 on: December 21, 2022, 03:47:50 pm »
How to find out the firmware version?
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #522 on: December 22, 2022, 02:41:37 am »
System button.. and then page down (F4) until you find somwthing like "Info" and press F? below it...
https://files.owon.com.cn/probook/HDS200_series_user_manual.pdf
https://files.owon.com.cn/probook/HDS200_Series_Oscilloscope_Quick_Guide.pdf
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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #523 on: December 25, 2022, 09:40:32 pm »
Thank you, I am already. My HDS272S version is V8.0.0
 

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Re: OWON HDS 200 Handheld Oscilloscope w/ builtin DMM/AWG
« Reply #524 on: December 25, 2022, 11:36:30 pm »
Thank you, I am already. My HDS272S version is V8.0.0

Do you have voltage drift in oscilloscope ("mean" option) when the case heats up inside?
I came here for a while.
 


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