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| slugrustle:
--- Quote from: David Aurora on March 03, 2023, 11:37:10 pm ---Serious question- are you literate? --- End quote --- Asking this in written form must make it a trick question. |
| voltsandjolts:
I'm often out on-the-go. I always carry a laptop, so choice for me is (1) Laptop + standalone scope (2) Laptop + USB scope I prefer option (2) and PicoScope 5K + Picoscope 6 Win works great for me. I tried Picoscope 7 about a year ago, but quickly decided it wasn't for me. It's so baby blue and white - it just looks washed out to my eye. Looking at it now on David's YT video, I'm a bit disappointed it's not more polished, it's been years in development. Maybe Win version is more stable, IDK. But I'm sticking with 6, even if 7 gets the bugs fixed. I don't think software engineers make the best GUI designers, looks like it needs the input of a UI designer with electronics experience. Or just copy LeCroy (please). I want to see Pico do well, they are quite innovative and well known for a relatively small company with just 20M turnover, 0.5M R&D expenditure. Punching above their weight really. Edit Dec2023: Now changed my mind about Picoscope 7 software, it's actually become very good in the last few months...and dark mode, yeh! |
| David Aurora:
--- Quote from: voltsandjolts on March 04, 2023, 06:00:56 pm ---I'm often out on-the-go. I always carry a laptop, so choice for me is (1) Laptop + standalone scope (2) Laptop + USB scope I prefer option (2) and PicoScope 5K + Picoscope 6 Win works great for me. I tried Picoscope 7 about a year ago, but quickly decided it wasn't for me. It's so baby blue and white - it just looks washed out to my eye. Looking at it now on David's YT video, I'm a bit disappointed it's not more polished, it's been years in development. Maybe Win version is more stable, IDK. But I'm sticking with 6, even if 7 gets the bugs fixed. I don't think software engineers make the best GUI designers, looks like it needs the input of a UI designer with electronics experience. Or just copy LeCroy (please). I want to see Pico do well, they are quite innovative and well known for a relatively small company with just 20M turnover, 0.5M R&D expenditure. Punching above their weight really. --- End quote --- The bit I quoted in bold is the key here really. I really, reeeeally want to like it. For basically a year since buying the one I returned I've been watching their website for updates hoping they'd get it right. For the price, form factor and software features they could knock it out of the park if they could just get the damn thing stable. What I've seen, whether beta or the new stable release just isn't that. I'm going to try it on the Intel machine when I get some spare time this week (they've confirmed I can keep that unit if I want, so no rush to get it back) so with any luck the crashes are specific to the M1 processor and if that's isolated they can troubleshoot that area more specifically. Has anyone tried the "stable" release of 7 on Windows yet? I'd be curious to know how that's running, but their forum is just tumbleweeds. I could try it in bootcamp/Parallels but I don't know how accurate an assessment that's going to be |
| mendip_discovery:
--- Quote --- I want to see Pico do well, they are quite innovative and well known for a relatively small company with just 20M turnover, 0.5M R&D expenditure. Punching above their weight really. --- End quote --- I think that is why I have a soft spot for them. I have two of the TC-08 temp dataloggers and they are not the best thing in the world but they are one of the more affordable solutions. With regards to the comments about portability of a proper scope vs pico. LoL. The pico can go in the bag with your laptop that most service engineers need with them. The box weight is just a few hundred grams and is in a fairly robust case, I could drop it down the stairs and it would no doubt still work. The software does have its moments, the picolog takes and age to start up on my laptop and does the job but I cant see why it takes so long. |
| jasonRF:
--- Quote from: David Aurora on March 05, 2023, 12:33:06 pm ---Has anyone tried the "stable" release of 7 on Windows yet? I'd be curious to know how that's running, but their forum is just tumbleweeds. I could try it in bootcamp/Parallels but I don't know how accurate an assessment that's going to be --- End quote --- I have used the most recent stable version of Picoscope 7 under Windows. Overall it seems to work well and the touchscreen interface is reasonable. I haven't tested all of the features - in particular have not attempted to use any of the serial decoding since I mostly just do analog stuff. But the features I use seem to all be there now and work fine, including the math channels. The streaming-mode operation is better than in Picoscope 6 in that the measurements/stats seem to work properly, which will probably only matter to folks that have the shallow-memory models like my 2204a. For ~2 hour sessions it has been stable but I haven't tried running it for hours on end. Edit: I have had a recent early access version running continuously for a handful of days with no problem. The main thing I miss from 6 at this point is the user-defined keyboard shortcuts. Especially when running from a laptop on-the-go, doing everything with the mouse-pad or the touchscreen is a little annoying. Since I am on windows I usually just use the most recent version. It is nice that the installers automatically include 'early access' in the name of versions that aren't officially listed as 'stable' so you can easily have both on your machine without getting confused. jason |
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