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| David Aurora:
--- Quote from: voltsandjolts on March 06, 2023, 01:08:52 pm --- --- Quote from: David Aurora on March 06, 2023, 12:50:48 pm ---If not now, I wonder when they will make the leap to supporting modern processors --- End quote --- Pico chose to hitch their wagon to mono for cross-platform, so it's really a question for mono. If I were Pico, I think I would have went with Qt, for fast binaries running native on all supported platforms. Which sounds ideal for a 'scope app. I see Qt support mac arm. Anyway, I'm sure they had reasons, hiring C# programmers is probably easier than for C++/Qt. --- End quote --- Kind of circles back to the earlier parts of this thread I guess- why not just say "Windows only" and do one thing properly rather than claim it works on other operating systems but not pull it off ??? Hopefully when I get around to an Intel test it works better, although that's kind of useless to me given I only want it for portability with a MacBook Pro (M1), not chained to the Intel box on the desk. I guess if it does though there's a chance that maybe someday the third party they're relying on sorts out the issue and it's usable with a modern laptop, fingers crossed |
| JPortici:
--- Quote from: voltsandjolts on March 06, 2023, 01:08:52 pm --- --- Quote from: David Aurora on March 06, 2023, 12:50:48 pm ---If not now, I wonder when they will make the leap to supporting modern processors --- End quote --- Pico chose to hitch their wagon to mono for cross-platform, so it's really a question for mono. If I were Pico, I think I would have went with Qt, for fast binaries running native on all supported platforms. Which sounds ideal for a 'scope app. I see Qt support mac arm. Anyway, I'm sure they had reasons, hiring C# programmers is probably easier than for C++/Qt. --- End quote --- Most probably. Also maybe since they have a long history of windows products they may have had a long history of programming with Visual studio and .net, using mono for multiplatform seems the path of least resistance |
| voltsandjolts:
--- Quote from: David Aurora on March 06, 2023, 09:53:26 pm ---Kind of circles back to the earlier parts of this thread I guess- why not just say "Windows only" and do one thing properly rather than claim it works on other operating systems but not pull it off ??? --- End quote --- They should explicity say "Mac x86-64" on their download page, rather than the generic "Mac", which only leads to disappointment. --- Quote ---Hopefully when I get around to an Intel test it works better, although that's kind of useless to me given I only want it for portability with a MacBook Pro (M1), not chained to the Intel box on the desk. I guess if it does though there's a chance that maybe someday the third party they're relying on sorts out the issue and it's usable with a modern laptop, fingers crossed --- End quote --- Yup. Thanks for having the patience to stick with it, hopefully things improve. |
| David Aurora:
Just installed it on the Intel Mac while waiting for a customer to arrive and gave it a quick go. Menus still appear laggy, possibly a little less though? Hit the reset config button a handful of times without a crash so far. Haven't actually probed anything yet as I only have 5 minutes right now, but will try to actually measure some stuff later and see if it behaves better on Intel |
| David Aurora:
OK, I reckon there's definitely merit to the mono theory. I finally gave the Picoscope a run on the Intel machine today, and only had one crash (not sure what triggered it, but it was pretty random rather than anything that was crashing on the M1 processor). Menus still seem a little laggy to open/close, but otherwise it worked pretty well. Actually, it worked well enough that without even thinking about it I left it set up for the next thing I worked on and did that job on the Pico rather than the usual gear. Might not sound like a big deal, but compared to my first impressions of this thing that's a pretty big step to just use it happily for actual work. According to an email I got yesterday the number entry thing should be a straightforward fix. If at some point the software works properly on a modern Mac I'd actually be pretty stoked with this as a mobile setup for job callouts. |
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