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Products => Test Equipment => Topic started by: klimm on May 27, 2018, 04:21:31 pm

Title: Polish storage Oscilloscope KR-7401 schematics, manuals
Post by: klimm on May 27, 2018, 04:21:31 pm
Hi all,
I am in search of the above docs,  as I do have the thing not working, of course, but no info about it.
It uses the RFT B13S13 CRT but also about this one can't get any info

Kind regards,
Gelu
Title: Re: Polish storage Oscilloscope KR-7401 schematics, manuals
Post by: Pinkus on May 28, 2018, 07:48:49 am
How about some photos from outside and also inside? We might be able to recognize it as a different brand which would make it easier to find documents.
Title: Re: Polish storage Oscilloscope KR-7401 schematics, manuals
Post by: klimm on May 30, 2018, 10:02:19 am
There is no such other brand, Pinkus

Title: Re: Polish storage Oscilloscope KR-7401 schematics, manuals
Post by: fejkblad on May 30, 2018, 10:22:39 am
Hi,

In this thread you can find pictures of schematics: https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic2970035.html?sid=91a14c818ffc3c30c08f228432055734 (https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic2970035.html?sid=91a14c818ffc3c30c08f228432055734)
Title: Re: Polish storage Oscilloscope KR-7401 schematics, manuals
Post by: Pinkus on May 30, 2018, 10:25:57 am
You never know. Maybe somebody recognizes it as a scope also being sold by brand xyz.
btw: did you ask the manufacturer?
At least in their brochure they are proudly referring to their invention from 1986
http://radiotechnika.com.pl/component/tinydoc/document/124?format=raw (http://radiotechnika.com.pl/component/tinydoc/document/124?format=raw)
page 5, bottom right corner. So chances are not too small that they do have some documentation somewhere.
Title: Re: Polish storage Oscilloscope KR-7401 schematics, manuals
Post by: klimm on May 30, 2018, 11:49:23 am
Fejkblad,  Pinkus,
Thank you for your help.
It was maybe not polite from me not to mention that I really searched the internet before posting.
Who would believe me anyway.
Of course, before posting here, I did it on romanian forums, and on elektroda.pl. I find there 2 threads dealing with repair/restoration of this oscilloscope Gizmon and Milik. There was some info but didn't help much, as mine has different symptoms and the guys there had schematics at hand. So, I opened a thread on elektroda.pl asking for docs. No answer yet. I also wrote an mail to Radiotechnika asking for docs. I also find their flyer mentioning the KR-7401. Well after waiting for more than a week, I decided to also ask here, seeing some of you guys are from Poland. I now have a thread on Robotrontechnik forum that mostly deals with ex DDR stuff, in search of data for the CRT the RFT's  B13S13 which is a storage CRT.
During the cold war, no western country would buy from eastern ones, technology, only dumping consumer goods.
So, again, no chance that we could discover the KR-7401 under other name in the western world  :) 

Well, opening the machine, I determined by eye the pins of the CRT and  I supplied the filament with 6.3V. Measured a small current between cathode and control grid  I=40uA after running for about 3 minutes. Not much life in it I would say, but I still have the option of trying to regenerate the cathode for about other  500 hours of working  which for my needs as radio amateur is really ok. I need a scope not so often and it is the provocation of repairing it instead of making a postal box of it :) 
Thanks again, Gelu, YO5TC
Title: Re: Polish storage Oscilloscope KR-7401 schematics, manuals
Post by: Jacon on May 30, 2018, 08:03:50 pm
Fejkblad,  Pinkus,
Thank you for your help.
It was maybe not polite from me not to mention that I really searched the internet before posting.
Who would believe me anyway.
Well, not me, obviously...

As you should find this site:

http://www.instrukcje-schematy.pl/ (http://www.instrukcje-schematy.pl/)

containing countless documentation pieces regarding almost every T&M equipment produced here.
But they're not free to get, for sure...
Title: Re: Polish storage Oscilloscope KR-7401 schematics, manuals
Post by: klimm on May 31, 2018, 01:08:23 pm
Thank you Jacon,

I was not aware of the site. I wrote an email and I quickly got the infos in polish,  scanned at a relative low quality . Too bad the phots were not cleaned before transformed in PDF, an this makes the document hard to read. 
The price was really ok and overall, I have more info than before.

Thank you again

Gelu, YO5TC