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| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: Fungus on September 11, 2022, 02:36:49 am ---Edit: Take Joe Smith for example. I watch his videos because he does everything except test multimeters to see if they're bang on accurate. He rubs them with gasoline, zaps them with grill starters, twists the knob until it breaks, etc. It's fun to watch fancy $700 meters fail miserably where $50 meters survive. --- End quote --- My plan for a long time has been to have such testing facilities. Thermal/humidiuty test chambers, vibration tables, automated knob turners, ESD, mains brownout and spike testing etc. EEVlab could be a torture test lab only perhaps? |
| maxwell3e10:
This would be a great undertaking if it results in more quantitative evaluation of test equipment. I think a good example is https://www.audiosciencereview.com/ Amir deserves a lot of credit for pushing audio equipment manufacturers to improve their products in measurable ways. As a result, there is often more quantitative information available on the performance of an $100 consumer DAC than professional test equipment costing 100 times more. In the old days manufacturers (e.g. HP) would include a lot of info and plots in their datasheets. Now they focus on making datasheets to hide the weak points. From the practical perspective, evaluating audio equipment is easier because there are only a few types of equipment. Amir's approach is to run exactly the same tests on all similar pieces of equipment and present plots in exactly the same way. This makes it faster to do and easier to compare. He does it all himself and I don't think it's his source of income. But with standardized procedures one could train a tech to run the tests on common pieces of equipment (oscilloscope, function generator, power supply) in a few hours. The goal would be not to play with equipment in an entertaining way, but to get hard data on its performance quickly. P.S. Perhaps one can encourage people to subscribe by letting patrons request specific additional tests. |
| Black Phoenix:
To be sincere I didn't voted because I'm conflicted. I would like to see such project. Normally I take instead how Gamer Nexus been doing such kind of stuff with his standards for reviews and equipment they now own and use in his new office building. I don't talk about LTT because I, although was a subscriber since the beginnings (coming from NCIX) I unsub them when they were moved to the new big warehouse (before they had the adjacent one converted to a machine tool shop and this new LTTLabs) since the format I liked was starting to dissappear. Also the cringe YouTube thumbnails and clickbait titles is something that is a pet peeve of me. Although I understand the reason why they do I still think that for something who tried to look professional it diminishes the quality of the production (but that just me). And other reasons regarding Linus itself and how he tackles some stuff, but that's for another day. But at the same time I fail to realize, other than having a standards for reviewing stuff, how did this new Labs stuff (that a lot of people now is thinking on doing) is going to differ of a normal indepth review or round up I see other reviewers do, some of them with equipment and standards on par with the best. I would not mind supporting it or even providing man hours to the cause to be sincere. |
| Warpspeed:
Choice Magazine is a good example of this type of activity, and I did subscribe to that for about a year. The problem was, they hardly ever reviewed anything I was even remotely interested in. Its main value to me was at the local suburban library that held all the back issues. If I ever did decide to buy an ironing board, or a mouse trap, I could always research it for free at the library. That was back in in ancient times before the internet. Likewise, If I was in the market for a soldering station, or a multimeter today, a quick internet and U-tube search would turn up a lot of very useful info. Its a great idea, but the practicality and expense of it all, hardly seems justifiable. |
| manicdoc:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on September 11, 2022, 02:14:25 am --- --- Quote from: Muttley Snickers on September 11, 2022, 01:14:53 am --- --- Quote from: EEVblog on September 11, 2022, 12:32:48 am ---<Big Snip...> Does this have a chance of succeeding or am I nuts? --- End quote --- You're nuts! ::) I don't know, but to give a fair and proper assessment or evaluation on any product really requires having extensive knowledge of the product itself and being completely versed in its operation and configuration. Anything less than a full commitment from you or your staffs part will be heavily criticised with endless facepalms from the audience. It is very common for people to criticise that which they do not fully understand. --- End quote --- Yes, but the whole idea is to develop a set of standardised tests, developed in conjuction with the community. --- End quote --- It's an interesting idea, although I would think those who are the most interested in such test results would be in a position to get their mits on equipment to test for fit to the required purpose OR know someone who can help them reduce the choices to sufficient a degree that the differences left can be overcome (questions on this forum about what test equipment to get would in effect be in competition). As in the more expensive the kit (talking well North of 10k here) the more seriously someone would be in picking it. What you do might have some bearing on their decision-making, but not sure it would be critical I think, with that amount being spent it has to be directly justified. Plus the number of people doing this rapidly tails off... Remember Linus has a whole ecosystem of interchangeable PC bits to play with and contrast & compare with on a very dense set of price/feature curves (he has literally 100's if not 1000's of things to compare and the infrastructure to do so) - plus an audience who are pure fanboys for their bit of beloved kit. For him, it makes sense to produce what is essentially mental button-pushing precision comparison clickbait as he wins whoever ends up foaming at the mouth; it's a critical mass comparison war and he makes $$$ no matter what. A bit like the entertainment fight arena in Altered Carbon, but with slightly less blood & tissue damage, and more measurements... He knows exactly what he is up to. |
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