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POST Hacking Rigol MSO5000 - POST HACKING TUTORIAL - DEEP DIVE
thorstormlord:
I have tried to use the script and it failed for me deleting the add-ons o had form the bundle i had.
As I mentioned in
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hacking-the-rigol-mso5000-series-oscilloscopes/2750/
I followed other instructions and everything when great having a fully powered mso5354 now. The question is which patch do I need to run to keep the scope supercharged and what is your assessment of the possibility of the patch being disabled in future fw updates
BTO:
--- Quote from: thorstormlord on March 29, 2024, 06:04:56 am ---Letw get this straight. You need to re patch after each update or you lose the options you added?
If so , them we should expect that the hack will be fixed at some point.
Finally I guess you can just return the scope to it's older self with the back and re hack it, keeping it in an older FW version.
Am I correct in my assumption?
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Here's my 2 cents
Re the patch after every update, Right .... but how often do we update them ?
I've got a DS2000A , i think i've had it for 10 Years now, Did the original update and unlocked all the options, Now, there is a current newer
version, do i need it... No not really
So on one hand it may be the case that we may need to, On the other (at least speaking for myself) who cares.
and another point, if we are going to talk about inconvenience.... THIS IS WHAT WE DO , We put effort into out scopes so we can have
these unlocked options and if that means say every 3 or 4 years having to do it again, why is that an issue. and even if we decide now
that it has to be done, things may change in a few years anyway and it may or may not need it.
for me, i don't think we need to but even if we do, i don't see the big deal with it anyway.
thorstormlord:
It's bo big deal that's for sure. I'm merely thinking about IF one should be careful.and maybe even get a backup pre upgrading just in case they decide to undo our hacking.
Tbh I don't think updating is needed unless some glaring issue arises.
BTO:
--- Quote from: Protegimus on March 29, 2024, 07:18:10 am ---You need to keep up Martin72, things have changed.
That said, applying the original update following a firmware update is very straightforward; not at all a bind and keeps the MSO5000 fully featured.
Back on topic - Martin, thanks for the additional videos man, will work through them.
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1. RE "You need to keep up Martin72"
WHO IS MARTIN 72?
2. What things do i need to keep up with ?
I help people with these upgrades all the time, the last one was yesterday , then 2 days before that, i would assume that if i wasn't up
to date with something then the updates wouldn't have worked properly, But.. by all means tell me what i'm not up to date with or at
least point me to a post that shows where i left off and what i need to brush up on.
3. RE "That said, applying the original update following a firmware update is very straightforward; not at all a bind and keeps the MSO5000 fully featured."
True, but keep in mind My original post was not focussed on the actual update, the focus was on the fact that i noticed a lot of people
upgrade their scope then don't know what to do with the scope :-DD
or... They kinda do but they don't really and they only end up with basic skills like , feeding in a signal, Looking at it , Changing vertical and
Horizonal controls and maybe putting the probes on an L.E.D. and not knowing much beyond that.
All the benefits of the scope seem to go out the window the math functions the reference features , FFT , deep nested offset features that
trick the person into something is wrong, phase adjustments, time saving features like loading a setup file, capturing waveforms for reference,
understanding decode, understanding L.A. etc etc
I have seen this behaviour with techs that i have trained in the past, in this example i refer to TV antenna and Satellite techs, whereby they have a spectrum analyzer, usually a RoverSAT and all they know how to do is to use the pre loaded profiles, then.. the carrier changes frequency but the profile holds the old transponder settings and they sit their scratching their head.
They have this beast of a machine but don't know how to use it
so that was the focus of the 10 video's, Not so much the upgrade but how do we have fun after the upgrade and use it to it's fullest potential
and through the video tutorial process my hope is that it would open a lot of doors and open their minds to what is actually possible and do able.
and lastly
YOU'RE VERY WELCOME FOR THE VIDEO'S
In truth i'm happy that you guys are actually enjoying it, I wasn't sure to be honest, I thought to myself... Who the fuck is going to watch10 Hours of tutorial , I mean.. I would , but i do understand most people are not like me So i do GENUINELY appreciate that you guys are appreciating the videos and actually getting use out of it and as far as i'm concerned if no one else other than you guys and a few in the backround i think a total of around 15 now get use out of these videos and no one ever looks at them again, it'll still be worth my time.
it's cool that you guys like the video's........... THANK YOU SINCERELY
BTO:
--- Quote from: Protegimus on March 29, 2024, 09:59:27 am ---No, you have no relevance here.
Although hacking is mentioned in the title the purpose here is to share skills and information on how to use the very capable modified MSO5000 to its full potential.
For hacking (as you well know) you need to read the other thread and I'd recommend paying attention to posts from DrMefistO, especially Reply #2739. From those you will learn that the situation has changed and the scope can now be modified either way. Easily.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hacking-the-rigol-mso5000-series-oscilloscopes/2725/
--- Quote from: 2N3055 on March 29, 2024, 07:50:33 am ---
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So answer to his question is : Yes, every time you load new firmware you need to patch up again, but process was made to be very easy, so it is not a problem. But you need to patch up every time, it is not one time job as it was on a Z machine..
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[edit: lots more information from reply #2672 onward in the above linked thread]
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RE "No, you have no relevance here."
Who has not relevance here ?
RE "Although hacking is mentioned in the title the purpose here is to share skills and information on how to use the very capable modified MSO5000 to its full potential."
EXACTLY !!! YOU GOT IT
The entire purpose here is to use the scope to it's fullest potential, Because sinced we forked out a pretty penny for it and it will very likely
be a scope that we'll have pretty much for the rest of our lives , Why not learn it in and out ?
and it's about knowledge and contrasting CRO's against DSO's and MSO's which i have purposely included in the video's for the benefit of those
that don't have a CRO and don't understand them. and i have purposely included some practical examples and tests that people can use
to think outside the box a little and i have included unusual tests that beginners would not think to do such as ...
How to test inductors (instead of throwing them away)
How to test a XTAL (so you can pull them out of circuit and test and use them)
and a few other things, pretty much just to get people to think outside of the box and understand the features of the scope and what is possible
I MENTIONED HACKING IN THE TITLE so that when a search is done to upgrade the scope , that the person will stumble upon this.
I INCLUDED THE UPGRADE PROCESS HERE so that just in case they didn't go to the hacking thread first, they could get it here as well
I INCLUDED THE LINKS TO THE ORIGINAL THREAD so that they could go there and know what it's all about
the hacking title was merely included for search indexing reasons.
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