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| DaneLaw:
--- Quote from: Proxy64 on January 09, 2024, 03:55:42 am --- --- Quote from: DaneLaw on January 09, 2024, 01:36:51 am --- --- Quote from: Proxy64 on January 06, 2024, 07:16:00 am ---... Interresting to note, that 12V is missing on the powerbank datasheet but in fact it is available --- End quote --- I doubt the Anker 737 supports PD12v as none of the protocol triggers I tested with can activate 12v in power delivery regi on these 140w Anker powerbanks. --- End quote --- Yes that why I noticed that on my initial post. I saw some reviews with the 12V missing, I saw many complaints from Mavick users about the missing 12V. So maybe they have made an update, maybe it’s only software, I don’t know! But below a picture, I trigged for 12V/3A and as you can see on the dummy load screen, it’s really 12V sinking 1A for test. (Attachment Link) --- End quote --- Have you tested the actual output of the 737 to check what voltage it is delivering from the bank to the FNB58 fx with a USB meter in between and its not some fluke in the FNB58 that / bulks it down, Anker is pretty is pretty clear cut, the A1289 does not support 12V PD, and no revisions of the A1289 should have that protocol support, according to them. Reached out to see if the A1289 is pushed under different fimware revisions or upgradeable. --- Quote ---Anker respons The Anker 737 Power Bank (PowerCore 24K, model A1289) does not support 12V/3A output. If some users claim that they got 12V PD output, it might be due to a misunderstanding or a specific interaction with their devices that could be misinterpreted as 12V support. As of the information provided, there is no indication that later revisions of the PowerCore 24 (Anker 737) include the ability to output 12V PD. source #TNS479517818 for further inquiries & the relevant technicians --- End quote --- It seems its a conclusion that Anker have taken when Apple dont support 12vPD as Anker tries to be pretty hardtied into Apples ecosystem.. |
| DaneLaw:
--- Quote from: Proxy64 on January 06, 2024, 07:16:00 am ---Anker 737 24,000mAh (powercore 24k) FAILED ! This powerbank is well rated on many reviews, but sadly my Rigol DHO804 powerred by this powerbank does not complete boot correctly. Yes it power up and begin to boot, but failed to run the app, something wrong happend at about 30s, just when the power needed grow up, from about 12-18W to more than 30W. --- End quote --- It is a shame if your Anker737 dont work with your Rigol, as the Anker737 (Powercore24 A1289) does seem to work with the newer Rigol products, but it could be they changed something from the older Rigol products to the newer Rigol models. --- End quote --- |
| Proxy64:
--- Quote from: DaneLaw on January 10, 2024, 04:13:40 am ---Anker respons As of the information provided, there is no indication that later revisions of the PowerCore 24 (Anker 737) include the ability to output 12V PD. --- End quote --- Here what we can read on the Anker support about Mavick charger issue due to the missing 12V: Therefore, our engineer will improve our power bank and add the charging ability at 12V in the near future, which should help to be better compatible with the DJI Mini 3 Pro. Maybe communication between Anker services is like Boeing communication ;) https://ankertechnologycompanyltd.my.site.com/ankerenexternal/s/article/Why-does-the-UVP-warning-appear-on-the-Anker-737-PowerBank-s-screen-when-charging-a-DJI-Mini-3-Pro --- Quote from: DaneLaw on January 10, 2024, 04:13:40 am ---Anker respons If some users claim that they got 12V PD output, it might be due to a misunderstanding or a specific interaction with their devices that could be misinterpreted as 12V support. --- End quote --- No there is no misunderstanding about the result of the PD negotiations! No the FNB58 will not add missing sources capatibilities, no it doesn’t have bulk converter inside it’s not his job. Compare your PD listener result with mine post #10, if you think my fnb58 add 12V capatibility, why yours doesn’t post#9 ? |
| DaneLaw:
--- Quote from: Proxy64 on January 11, 2024, 04:48:03 am --- --- Quote from: DaneLaw on January 10, 2024, 04:13:40 am ---Anker respons As of the information provided, there is no indication that later revisions of the PowerCore 24 (Anker 737) include the ability to output 12V PD. --- End quote --- Here what we can read on the Anker support about Mavick charger issue due to the missing 12V: Therefore, our engineer will improve our power bank and add the charging ability at 12V in the near future, which should help to be better compatible with the DJI Mini 3 Pro. Maybe communication between Anker services is like Boeing communication ;) [url=https://ankertechnologycompanyltd.my.site.com/ankerenexternal/s/article/Why-does-the-UVP-warning-appear-on-the-Anker-737-PowerBank-s-screen-when-charging-a-DJI-Mini-3-Pro]https://ankertechnologycompanyltd.my.site.com/ankerenexternal/s/article/Why-does-the-UVP-warning-appear-on-the-Anker-737-PowerBank-s-screen-when-charging-a-DJI-Mini-3-Pro[/url] --- Quote from: DaneLaw on January 10, 2024, 04:13:40 am ---Anker respons If some users claim that they got 12V PD output, it might be due to a misunderstanding or a specific interaction with their devices that could be misinterpreted as 12V support. --- End quote --- No there is no misunderstanding about the result of the PD negotiations! - Compare your PD listener result with mine post #10, if you think my fnb58 add 12V capatibility, why yours doesn’t post#9 ? --- End quote --- Let's see what Anker responds, as you're quoting a technician from Anker support that was under the clear-cut belief that no variants of A1289/Anker737 had 12V PD implemented, but Anker got quite a portfolio of products, so there is a chance they (fx western orientated support technician) simply aint up to date if there are changes. and perhaps regional.. Not to mention, it could also be relevant to get an idea of what serie-nr or production stats new revisions took place - but as I exampled to you above, my unit doesn't carry PD 12v from its native TypeC PD sockets, so that should be written in stone by now, PD-listener screenshot or not - and likely the same with most units here in the West. Been an issue for some since the Anker 737 came out a year or two back and seems to go hand in hand with Apple's lack of 12V PD. https://www.astroworldcreations.com/blog/powering-your-rig-with-usb-power-delivery You seem to be in Thailand, and your Anker737 still got screencover on it, so I reckon you likely just got it... where did you purchase it from, local in Thailand, or CN import like Aliexpress etc? Here in Europe, the 737 looks to be on the verge of being discontinued and not in stock, seemed they were cleared at a reduced price. https://www.anker.com/eu-en/products/a1289?ref=naviMenu&variant=42109767549118 Anker refers to newer models, like the Prime series.. in the USA they also seem to be clearing stock of older 737 units with a -40% to 45% reduction 159/149 down to 91US https://www.anker.com/products/a1289?variant=41974285041814 Or maybe they are simply clearing stock, of older revisions.. --- Quote from: Proxy64 on January 11, 2024, 04:48:03 am ---No the FNB58 will not add missing sources capatibilities, --- End quote --- Ofcourse it does.. FNB58 are able to add missing ablelities , it will even give you 12V PD on powerbank units that don't have it - as explained my unit doesn't support 12V PD (like most units) but the FNB58 can in fact recreate a 12V PD protocol, even from a socket that aren't intended for any PD support, like USB-A, - the FNB58 does it by converting the Qualcomm fast-charge into 12V PD power delivery signal. So 12V PD products can trigger and run on 12v PD signal from the Anker737, but it's limited to sub 30W (12v/2.5A) its called "QC to PD converting", and its limited to the older power delivery standard PD 2.0. Alongside the FNB58 offers the ability to regulate the voltage down to your heart's desire by giving access to different voltage adjustment protocols that both Qualcomm & Power Delivery have, alongside other vendors' semicharge protocols. Anyway - as mentioned, it's a shame with your new power bank, and its doesn't work with your new Rigol scope as it's a nice power bank.. as you can see above' my unit (Anker737) does in fact work with Rigol's new TypeC products and it doesn't make a 12v dip, it stays continuously at 15v from scratch to boot, so maybe you can put your hat on the tiny "hope" that Rigol can change it thru future firmware.. |
| Proxy64:
--- Quote from: DaneLaw on January 11, 2024, 10:34:04 am ---Ofcourse it does.. FNB58 are able to add missing capatibilities , it will even give you 12V PD on powerbank units that don't have it --- End quote --- Sorry, no it doesn’t, you are confusing PD trigger function and QC to PD converter function, in this case it make a protocol exchange between QC and PD, so if you have an output QC 12V it will convert the protocol to give an PD 12V output (it make change only on the protocol layer). As you said, anyway, yes I think you are right about localization, I live in Thailand and I got it directly from an authorized seller in China, that should explain th difference. I don’t mind about the issue with the dho800, because I don’t buy it especially for that and if I need it I can use it with the fnb58 trigged on 15V/3A in this way it works. Really a good Swiss Army knife this FNB58 :) |
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