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Powerbanks tested with DHO800/900
DaneLaw:
--- Quote from: Proxy64 on January 11, 2024, 11:38:13 am ---
--- Quote from: DaneLaw on January 11, 2024, 10:34:04 am ---Ofcourse it does.. FNB58 are able to add missing capatibilities , it will even give you 12V PD on powerbank units that don't have it
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Sorry, no it doesn’t, you are confusing PD trigger function and QC to PD converter function, in this case it make a protocol exchange between QC and PD, so if you have an output QC 12V it will convert the protocol to give an PD 12V output (it make change only on the protocol layer).
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Not sure what your meaning? "makes only changes on the protocol layer".. of course, what else, should it do?
"FNB58 will not add missing capabilities" when it in fact does that... it adds a 12v PD standard to fx a power bank that doesn't have it, and from a USB-A socket that never will have PD-officially.
When you can use the FNB58 to convert the QC/Qualcomm charge protocol into a Power delivery protocol (PD) you suddenly can use 12v PD products from a power bank that simply doesn't have 12V PD support.. that is, in fact, adding "features" the item didn't have or supported.
Not to mention having 12V PD Power delivery from a USB-A socket, also a feature that is added by FNB58 that you're not gonna obtain natively since PD is centered around TypeC sockets, not to mention getting 3x PD outputs on a unit that only supports 2x PD out, so the FNB58 is certainly adding new features
These two protocols come from two competing backlands.. QC is Qualcomm's own charging protocol (Qualcomm is the corp behind Snap Dragon SoC, Aptx etc) while Power delivery [PD] is from USB-IF (Implementers Forum) a consortium of technology companies where the board reflects representatives from a lot of big dogs on campus.. fx Apple, HP, Intel, Microsoft, Renesas, STMicroelectronics, Texas Instruments etc. (USB-IF is generally classified as a non-profit organization)
Qualcomm is certainly not to fund of Power Delivery (PD) as they feel big tech for years been stigmatizing their Quick Charge standard (QC) - which they certainly have but for good reasons.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/11/google-threatens-qualcomm-quick-charge-with-android-incompatibility/
--- Quote from: Proxy64 on January 11, 2024, 11:38:13 am --- if I need it I can use it with the fnb58 trigged on 15V/3A in this way it works. Really a good Swiss Army knife this FNB58 :)
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There you go, stay locked in 15v PD, so it could look like it's the 12V dip on your DHO800 bootup phase that is messing it up.
That would be a shame if it's that new 12V PD feature that seems to be implemented on your new Anker737 from CN, that is choking & undermining a direct use-case, which is very unlikely as I have no problems with PD3.0 powerbanks that include. 12v PD, it will not dip to 12V,, it stays in 15v from start to boot
Either way, you got it to work with your Anker737, even though it sounds far from ideal to have to trigger with FNB58 every time, but if it works when you got it triggered in 15V3A with FNB58 then just get a locked 15V PD decoy cable or make the cable yourself, then you won't have to trigger with FNB58, and can run your new power bank directly with your scope.
Proxy64:
Today I got an email from Anker:
We want to inform you that, after confirming with our backend team, we have implemented an improvement to our 737 power bank. The latest version now includes an additional charging tier of 12V/3A, designed to provide you with more versatility and efficiency in your charging needs.
ytterligare:
--- Quote from: Proxy64 on January 16, 2024, 10:39:26 am ---The latest version now includes an additional charging tier of 12V/3A, designed to provide you with more versatility and efficiency in your charging needs.[/i]
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"…so please throw your "old" 737 in the trash bin as we were too lazy to shell out a firmware update and please buy a new one, in the hope that the one you get belongs to the new release batch…otherwise, throw it again and repeat” : if you’re lucky, within three or four times you’ll end up with a market worth product…"
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Houseman:
I confirm that powerbank INIU BI-B63 clamed as PD 100W 25000mAh does not complete Rigol's boot.
Fan goes on but after a while DHO shuts down.
Asked for refund.
al777:
I can confirm that Essager PB187 65W "15000mAh" does work for DHO924S. No tests done in terms of how long it will last and what it does to the noise floor - my fully-floating sessions were fairly short and on fairly large signals.
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