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Offline jduncanTopic starter

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EMI test objects?
« on: February 16, 2025, 01:03:18 pm »
So lets say I've got my shiny spectrum analyzer and a near field probe / TEM cell. I can make pretty spectrum plots and see some peaks from my boards, but how do I turn this into useful precompliance information?

Is there anything out there I can buy that will function like go/no-go gauges? Boards with known characteristics that I can use to convert my uncalibrated measurements into relative judgments of quality?
 

Offline Conrad Hoffman

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Re: EMI test objects?
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2025, 02:17:32 pm »
I'm just starting to understand this stuff but the key is getting an antenna with a calibration document. Something like https://www.tekbox.com/product/tbma1-biconical-antenna/ is probably the cheapest thing out there, but it's not hobbyist cheap. Because of the way near-field probes are used I'm not sure calibration is all that useful. Long ago I made a small oscillator in a copper box with a short antenna sticking out a bushing. I clipped the antenna so the signal was just at compliance level for the frequency of operation. It ended up being about 5 mm long. I did this while at a cert lab doing a product for the company I worked for, figuring it would come in handy for pre-compliance work.
 

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Re: EMI test objects?
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2025, 02:56:22 pm »
If your TEM cell has a reasonably good match with 50 Ohms and you manage to position your DUT in the middle, the results will be quite accurate. My own TEM cell's corrections  are around 4dB up to 1GHz. You can go down the rabbit hole and getting everything calibrated but unless you invest massive amounts (like >200k euro / dollar) in a shielded / dampened room, your measurements will always be off. So the best approach is to measure relative based on pre-compliance testing at a certified lab. If the lab finds a peak at 200MHz going 6dBuV over the limit and you measure 72dBuV in your test setup, you need to make that 72dBuV drop by at least 6dB. And preferably more. Having test data from a lab also enables you to collect corrections for your own setup.

Near field probes are only useful to get a rough estimate where radiation from a board is coming from. A HF low-Z probe to measure signals directly is a good addition for trying to find sources of radiation. Typically it is a particular trace / node in a circuit which causes emissions at a certain frequency (band).
There are small lies, big lies and then there is what is on the screen of your oscilloscope.
 


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