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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #250 on: February 05, 2026, 04:32:12 pm »
In case anyone wants to use a USB stick with the SPD4000X, if Siglent ever releases updated firmware:

I had a lot of trouble recently having my SPD4323X to recognize ANY USB stick. My other Siglent devices have no trouble working with FAT16, FAT32 and ExFAT, but I found that the power supply only recognizes FAT32 with 4KB blocks. I used an 8GB stick.

While checking the documentation for any possible information about this (which it doesn't), I stumbled across a little detail that isn't really relevant for me but I find interesting nonetheless. When I purchased my SPD4323X last year I saved the documentation and data sheets. It specifies for ripple and noise 5 mV p-p and 350uV rms in C.V. mode (SPD4000X_DataSheet_EN01B). The current data sheet says 6 mV p-p and 600uV rms instead (SPD4000X_DataSheet_EN01C). If you are interested in my superior specimen, 10 billion USD seems to be a fair price.
 

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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #251 on: March 03, 2026, 07:42:04 am »
I am surprised that this firmware still hasn't been released yet, Rob perhaps you can give them a poke, with a pointy stick.
Done, result:
We plan to release version 4.1.2.9R1 in March
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #252 on: March 06, 2026, 04:55:42 pm »
Anyone any luck with it? My SPD4323X has been stuck on the "Upgrade Host...0%" screen for the past four hours. It recognizes the 8GB FAT32 (4KB blocks) USB stick, lets me select the SPD4000X_4.1.2.9R1.ADS file, then after a quick flash of the screen it shows "Upgrade Host...0%". But that never progresses. I tried several times, but it always only shows "Upgrade Host...0%". I unplugged all cables, including ethernet, but none of that makes any difference. At least it is not bricked.

Its firmware has a real problem with USB sticks anyway. My other Siglent equipment is not picky at all, but this power supply only recognizes FAT32 with 4KB blocks, and if you put anything in it that is formatted differently, you'll have to turn it off and on again to try another USB stick. Even a FAT32/4KB block stick is not recognized if you first put another format in it.
 

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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #253 on: March 06, 2026, 07:52:56 pm »
Anyone any luck with it? My SPD4323X has been stuck on the "Upgrade Host...0%" screen for the past four hours. It recognizes the 8GB FAT32 (4KB blocks) USB stick, lets me select the SPD4000X_4.1.2.9R1.ADS file, then after a quick flash of the screen it shows "Upgrade Host...0%". But that never progresses. I tried several times, but it always only shows "Upgrade Host...0%". I unplugged all cables, including ethernet, but none of that makes any difference. At least it is not bricked.

Its firmware has a real problem with USB sticks anyway. My other Siglent equipment is not picky at all, but this power supply only recognizes FAT32 with 4KB blocks, and if you put anything in it that is formatted differently, you'll have to turn it off and on again to try another USB stick. Even a FAT32/4KB block stick is not recognized if you first put another format in it.
Which may be addressed in the newer FW versions IDK.
We don't see full release notes with this latest version but know there is another factory version (from new units) that might have addressed these things.

My FW USB stick is not nearby but I seem to remember FW for these models won't load unless the FW is in the root folder of the stick as stated in the install notes in the Quick Start guide:

Please follow the steps below to upgrade the firmware:
1. Download the firmware upgrade package from the official website.
2. Copy the .ADS file in the upgrade package to the root directory of the U disk.
3. Insert the U disk into the USB port of the rear panel.
4. Press Menu > System corresponding menu button, use left/right direction button to select
Upgrade , and then press Enter button to confirm the selection.
5. Select the upgrade file and press Enter button to confirm, and the upgrade progress bar will pop
up. The instrument will restart after successful upgrade. Otherwise, the upgrade failure information is
displayed in the pop-up window.
Any operation that interrupts the upgrade process may cause upgrade failure or even render the machine
unable to be restarted. Do not remove the U disk or make any changes to the power supply during the
upgrade process.


Anyways, let's see if anyone else has problems loading it.
https://int.siglent.com/upload_file/zip/firmware/Power_Supply/SPD4000X_4.1.2.9R1_EN.zip
(793kb)
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #254 on: March 06, 2026, 09:10:59 pm »
Success! Using a 4 GB USB stick instead of 8 GB did the trick.

Current limiting in series mode when the voltage is set to > 1V (i.e. always) is still broken. 1mA accuracy, but still pushing 100mA too much. It took them 1.5 years to finally release a firmware update and they didn't even bother to fix that. Lame.
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #255 on: March 11, 2026, 11:29:41 pm »
I bought SPD4323X and have some complaints about it:

- fan noise annoys me. It's not the airflow, the fan itself emits annoying buzz. I had the same problem with SDS2000X+ where I replaced it with Noctua. But I think that one is variable speed, so that might be more involved. Did anybody changed the fan in their unit?
- when entering value from keypad it goes into modal-like where no buttons work except for keypad, knob button (which confirms value), knob turn and arrow keys (which cancel entry). You cannot turn the channels off and not even Home cancels entry! I think instead that pressing any button not on keypad should: cancel entry, and perform whatever normal action that button does.
- it has buttons for individual channels, so there's really no good reason to allow arrow keys to switch input focus between channels. Instead of that left/right arrow could function as voltage/current button respectively.
- maximum voltage setpoints are 6.06/32.32/32.32/6.06. But in CH2/CH3 series mode for some reason it has 60 V limit. Obviously if you connect them externally you can get 64.64 V.
- main screen doesn't show configured OVP/OCP values at all
- I'm not sure what's the purpose of OVP. If it's for DUT that feeds voltage back into supply, well, I don't think it will be affected by turning off supply source that has lower voltage, and thus doesn't feed any current anyway. If it's meant as protection in case of user fat-fingering the voltage, it's totally unsuitable as it doesn't clamp the setpoint and trips only when that voltage is actually exceeded, and takes long time to do anything about it.
- voltage and current readings are not averaged, just point samples. If you have load that aliases with display update rate you might get totally bogus reading. What's worse is that also applies to CC/CV indicator! You might have load that in pulses hits CC and not see anything on the display. Lack of averaging might be excusable, but when control loop hits CC/CV it should be latched and ensured that at least one display frame shows changed state.
- OCP/OVP reaction jitter seems all over the place. It usually trips in 10ms-50ms, but I have seen even 300ms occasionally. I think it's on the UI thread... It's also sampled, so you might have pulsed load that aliases with OCP sampling that will never trigger.
- when in bonded CH2/CH3 mode it's not consistent which values it displays. CH2 shows combined values from both channels, but CH3 shows CH3 only.
- when in CH2/CH3 bonded mode OVP/OCP values still apply to individual channels. If it trips on CH2 it will turn both channels off. If it trips on CH3 that will cause shrieking continous beep, but will NOT turn anything off.
- as others mentioned, current limit in CH2/CH3 series mode is wacky. It sets voltage limits of each channel to half of the setpoint, current limit on CH2 to setpoint, and current limit on CH3 to setpoint + 0.1. I suspect they did that because if you set current limits exactly the same voltage ratios of both channels will drift randomly, so this is their "fix". But now if both channels are in CC the channel with lower limit (CH2) will be progressively driven lower and lower, eventually going into negative, clamping at -0.75 V. (I guess there's reverse protection diode). As all the current current flows through diode the (correct) limit set there is ineffective, and all that's left is the limit on CH3, which is 0.1 A higher than the user intended. And the combined voltage display (in CH2 block) now reads ~0.75 V too high, because ADC doesn't measure negative voltage that is on CH2.
(I think the dirty fix they need to do is to subtract 0.1 A (or less, 5 mA would be plenty enough) from second channel limit instead of adding it. In some cases this might make current limit too low, but at least it won't exceed configured current. Proper fix probably would be to add extra relay that adds some feedback path between CH2 and CH3 that biases output voltages to be equal).
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #256 on: March 11, 2026, 11:52:03 pm »
@milek7
Have you updated the firmware ?
There are a few fixes but not all have been in public documentation,
https://int.siglent.com/upload_file/zip/firmware/Power_Supply/SPD4000X_4.1.2.9R1_EN.zip
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #257 on: March 11, 2026, 11:54:52 pm »
I did above testing on 4.1.2.9R1.
 

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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #258 on: March 12, 2026, 12:14:14 am »
I did above testing on 4.1.2.9R1.
Thanks for confirming.  :-+

The fan should be quite quiet at normal low loadings....on 2x SP4306X I updated yesterday for delivery tomorrow the fan is just noticeable at zero output  and shouldn't be at all annoying IMHO.
Wonder if yours has a faulty fan, certainly not common but crazy things do happen.  :-//
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #259 on: March 12, 2026, 01:15:03 am »
It's not that it's loud, but annoying.

Upper figure is scope with Noctua installed, lower figure is SPD with probably the cheapest fan they could get on Shenzen market. What is this crap at ~1.5kHz?
 

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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #260 on: March 12, 2026, 01:20:12 am »
My SPD4323X is quiet. Yours must have a bad fan.
 
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #261 on: March 12, 2026, 03:43:56 am »
It's not that it's loud, but annoying.

Upper figure is scope with Noctua installed, lower figure is SPD with probably the cheapest fan they could get on Shenzen market. What is this crap at ~1.5kHz?
That's not what I spot first and instead the pk @~450Hz, WTF is that ?  :-//

Siglent fans, the brand they use are normally quite okay, not the most silent unless smart controlled and give reliable service however in 13 yrs I have the the odd and rare infant failure, but always sorted under warranty where Siglent's backup for us has been nothing but excellent.
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #262 on: March 18, 2026, 07:15:59 pm »
I will purchase this interesting product only if Siglent fixes the user interface.
In my opinion, in the current UI, for use in a typical R&D lab, the placement of the quadrants referring to the four outputs is, to say the least, misleading and illogical. In other words, their location is inconsistent and does not reflect the position of the corresponding outputs.

Common sense would suggest placing the two main channels (2 and 3) on the first row and the two secondary channels (1 and 4) immediately below
(see below pic.: "Alternative - Quadrant UI").
Another useful and essential alternative layout is the column representation (see below pic.: "Alternative _ Column UI")

In this regard, I would recommend that Siglent offer a menu where the user can choose the layout that best suits his needs (choice between "Default Quadrant UI", "Alternative Quadrant UI" and "Column UI").



A simple, no-cost upgrade that I'm sure will make many users happy (providing choice is always a plus!).


Last but not least, along with the voltage and current, I would ask Siglent to display the power of each output.
It costs nothing to do, and... for a designer/developer, it's crucial to have a constant, real-time perception of this magnitude.
 
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #263 on: March 18, 2026, 08:05:29 pm »
I will purchase this interesting product only if Siglent fixes the user interface.
In my opinion, in the current UI, for use in a typical R&D lab, the placement of the quadrants referring to the four outputs is, to say the least, misleading and illogical. In other words, their location is inconsistent and does not reflect the position of the corresponding outputs.

Common sense would suggest placing the two main channels (2 and 3) on the first row and the two secondary channels (1 and 4) immediately below
(see below pic.: "Alternative - Quadrant UI").
Another useful and essential alternative layout is the column representation (see below pic.: "Alternative _ Column UI")

In this regard, I would recommend that Siglent offer a menu where the user can choose the layout that best suits his needs (choice between "Default Quadrant UI", "Alternative Quadrant UI" and "Column UI").



A simple, no-cost upgrade that I'm sure will make many users happy (providing choice is always a plus!).


Last but not least, along with the voltage and current, I would ask Siglent to display the power of each output.
It costs nothing to do, and... for a designer/developer, it's crucial to have a constant, real-time perception of this magnitude.
Thanks for your feedback, yes I'll take your display proposal to Siglent as a feature request.

Have you ever used a SPD4000X ?

The live/ON actual output for each channel is displayed in V, A and Watts and these are 0, 0, and 0 until the channel is activated.
Got wires crossed with SPD3303X/X-E.  |O
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #264 on: March 18, 2026, 08:22:34 pm »
The column layout is something I mentioned I would have preferred when I did the review too, in fact I said almost exactly the same thing, a switchable interface so people can choose.
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #265 on: March 18, 2026, 11:11:19 pm »
Right, and display it as 3 columns when you turn on Series/Parallel mode.
 

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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #266 on: March 18, 2026, 11:44:50 pm »
Thank you for your kind interest, tautech!

My request is based on common sense, nothing more...
If accepted, the SPD4323X will be mine!

If possible, also insist on introducing power display for each individual channel. It may seem trivial since it is a derived quantity and therefore easily calculated at any time, but, as mentioned above, having it constantly under control is a significant plus for any developer.
 
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #267 on: March 19, 2026, 12:11:45 am »
Right, and display it as 3 columns when you turn on Series/Parallel mode.
Don't have one to hand right now....all sold out....but consider dual supply use for 3&4 when in Series mode.
For this need 3&4 each show their portion of the Series supply where we can connect to the internally connected link via one of the front panel terminals for 0V when used as a dual tracking supply.

Further the output current for each channel (3&4) would cease to be visible and some might see this as an inconvenient and backward step to what we have now.

Reducing the display to 3 windows will have the user needing to do the maths in their head, although it's simple enough being just half of the series mode output but the current load on each of 3&4 would become invisible and only totalled.
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #268 on: May 19, 2026, 05:07:30 am »
WRT recent discussion in this thread, Defpom also has a bitch about the display layout....

It's a short vid so watch and jump in on his comments so we can take this to Siglent for them to consider an alternative display layout.....maybe as a GUI option and retain the existing for those that can work with it.

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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #269 on: May 19, 2026, 11:48:48 am »
A 4-column layout seems so, so obvious?  That is a strange one :-//
 
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