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Rigol: DHO1000 vs. MSO5000, what should I get?

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Martin72:

--- Quote ---I guess a MSO 5000 and DHO814 would be a good combination.
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But then you are in a price range where you can also afford the SDS2000Xplus.
Its only disadvantage, depending on how you want to look at it, is that it doesn't have 12-bit resolution.
Instead it has 10 bit (software, up to 100Mhz) and is incomparably more sophisticated and "professional".
In contrast to the MSO5000, it can be hacked permanently, including 500Mhz bandwidth.

seppeltronics:
The only downside of the SDS2000Xplus Series is the 1GSps, and that 8Bit-ADC, which is sufficient to 100..150MHz, to be honest. 500MHz at 1GSps, all it does is adding noise :( . Other than that, I'd agree, seems to be a very nice Scope, featuring SENT and Manchester Decoding in addition.

I really wonder why Rigol did not improve the Software, add more features to the MSO5000 Series over the years, a lot of the development these days is "digital", where these scopes are with no competition in that price-range.

Antonio90:
It's 2x2GS/s. Effectively half the samplerate of the Rigol (with more than 1 channel enabled).

Thats quite comfortably enough for 350 MHz, and 2GS/s is still useful at 500MHz. It also has an (allegedly quite good) 10bit mode.

But yes, that is the problem with Rigol. They sell exceedengly good hardware for the price, and make up for it with really slow development that sometimes doesn't reach the destination at all. I guess you can't have it all. Up to now Siglent has been the alternative, with much more polished software, but the price is higher and the hardware weaker.

tszaboo:

--- Quote from: Antonio90 on December 20, 2023, 09:32:43 am ---It's 2x2GS/s. Effectively half the samplerate of the Rigol (with more than 1 channel enabled).

Thats quite comfortably enough for 350 MHz, and 2GS/s is still useful at 500MHz. It also has an (allegedly quite good) 10bit mode.

But yes, that is the problem with Rigol. They sell exceedengly good hardware for the price, and make up for it with really slow development that sometimes doesn't reach the destination at all. I guess you can't have it all. Up to now Siglent has been the alternative, with much more polished software, but the price is higher and the hardware weaker.

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I wouldn't say the hardware is weaker. When you see the teardown of these Siglents (2000x and HD) there is like half a dozen FPGAs in them, doing specific things, from three different supplier. Its going to make software cheaper to write (because you carry the already written software from the bigger units), but then, the similarly specced scope will be 50% more expensive to pay for these.
Tje MSO5000 is a very good price performance scope, and I can totally see why people buy it. What I don't like is that there is a huge gap between this and the next tier. This gap is not really there in reality, since the MSO5034 MSO5024 and others fill it...

Antonio90:
Yes, I was thinking about that price gap, but in the 500-1000 range. Up to now there wasn't any scope above the DS1054 and the SDS1000 ranges, but below the MSO5000 and SDS2000X plus.
I guess we hobbyist perceive the gap because most of us buy the basic, software-limited ones and "unlock" them.
Then, 70MHz is a rather low bandwith for a $1000 scope, and my guess is that there is very few people spending that kind of money for 70MHz nowadays.

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