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Offline rpro

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Re: Rigol DHO804 Test and Compare Thread
« Reply #1125 on: January 11, 2024, 02:53:00 am »
-Touch function in the screen size can no longer be used only with fingers
-No hires mode (14, 16 bit)
-Sample rate drops to 312.5 MSa/s from 3 active channels, must be kept in mind when displaying high-frequency signals
-No bodeplot
-Memory drops to a meager 1Mpt when all channels are active(original state)
-Few decoding functions
-No upgradeable options(original state)
-Relatively useless "ultra acquisition" mode
-Poorly equipped FFT function, also error-prone
-Various inconsistencies in the software in general
-Only one usb port
-Somewhat high-frequency sounding fan
-Limited window functions

Thank you for your summary.  While I generally agree with your list of pros and cons, and observations, I would like to add a few observations of my own that may help others:

1. I found the x-y functionality more responsive and featured than in other low-priced scopes.
2. The scope hdmi output makes it very convenient to add a HD monitor, that I use with a wireless mouse all the time. With this setup (using an USB hub), on the scope I mostly tend to use the flex knobs, (for which I find their "continuous" feel convenient.)   
3. While the scope has no upgradeable options for sale, it can be easily hacked to higher frequencies, which for $400 makes it a bargain if you are looking for a 12-bit 200/300 MHz scope (measured @ 1.25Gsa/s with 1-ch.), with more memory, additional decoders, 200uV/div and 2ns/div scales, and with very low noise (to complement an 8-bit scope like the MSO5000).  The hacks can be literally changed in seconds, via well developed adb methods that can be found in this forum.
4. While the FFT can be (and should be) vastly improved, its particularly fast refresh rate makes it amenable to be used with (python/pyvisa) scripts to quickly acquire FFT traces, that can be further processed for averaging, peak/max holding, etc. (For example, I have scripts with aliases defined on my Mac to perform these tasks (and the hacks) with a couple of keystrokes on-demand. You can find an example script on this thread.) 
5. My hearing may not be very good, but this scope is literally significantly quieter than any other scope with an OEM fan that I have heard. (I have returned a very popular scope because of its fan noise, and hence I consider myself relatively sensitive in this regard, yet I have really no issues with the fan noise of this scope.) 
6. While the windowing system could have more features, I have found its flexibility almost sufficient when used with a 22 inch monitor, as I normally do. Also, the Android os (the scope runs on) offers additional useful screen features. For example, I like being able to adjust the overall scope screen brightness as needed, a feature unfortunately not present in some other popular scopes. 
7. To remain competitive, I expect and hope Rigol will significantly improve this scope software (and release process) in the future. This thread and others have a wealth of bug finds and suggestions to help that end.
 
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Re: Rigol DHO804 Test and Compare Thread
« Reply #1126 on: January 11, 2024, 08:21:55 pm »
Hi,
Good and important additions, I would like to comment on them from my point of view.
To:
1) I agree, I hadn't mentioned it.
2) Same
3) See my list (original state)
4) I was interested in what the scope itself can do, what you can use directly - if it has an FFT function, I want to be able to use it immediately as I am used to from other scopes and not just indirectly.
5) The sound is high frequency, but certainly not the loudest in my lab.
The DS1054Z is incomparably louder, even an SDS1104 is louder.
However, the high frequency becomes annoying over time, but that might be different for everyone, hence the emphasis on personal opinion.
7) I really hope so for all Rigol owners and those interested in the future.
Only I don't believe in it, I'm a bit branded, owned the DS1054Z, DS2072, MSO5074, DHO804 and had the DHO4204 on loan.
And had active contact with rigol support between 2018 and 2020.
I know Rigol a little, you could say.


 
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Re: Rigol DHO804 Test and Compare Thread
« Reply #1127 on: June 30, 2024, 01:33:08 pm »
Thank you very much, you saved my life. :-+ :-+
 

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Re: Rigol DHO804 Test and Compare Thread
« Reply #1128 on: September 28, 2024, 07:40:14 am »
Some info on the function generator warm up time and accuracy of the DHO914S
t0 = is power button on
It was measured with the FA-5, accuracy less than 10mHz

second picture is stability after about 1 hour.

(This is with the first Firmware, may be different with the latest one)

« Last Edit: September 28, 2024, 06:40:41 pm by KedasProbe »
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Re: Rigol DHO804 Test and Compare Thread
« Reply #1129 on: September 28, 2024, 04:12:21 pm »
Nice information but maybe in the "wrong" thread... :-+
 
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Re: Rigol DHO804 Test and Compare Thread
« Reply #1130 on: October 19, 2024, 02:36:00 pm »
I'm not sure if this has been reported here before, but since I couldn't resist to get one of the DHO804 at the current bargain price (~370€, VAT included) as my new carry-around scope, I found Rigol includes a different PSU now! This time, it's a Delta Electronics thingy with USB-C connector plus a proprietary, latching shell that mates with the DHO800/900 orifices around the power socket. This way, at least pulling the cable won't put all the stress on the scope's power connector / PCB. On the other hand, removing the power connector is a fiddly thing with rather big hands. Anyway, I prefer this over the standard USB C connector since it protects the scope significantly better.

This "bargain" unit apparently is an instrument meant for the Chinese domestic market, so I don't know if the recently shipped "standard" export versions include this Delta PSU as well.

 
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Re: Rigol DHO804 Test and Compare Thread
« Reply #1131 on: October 19, 2024, 03:36:13 pm »
Removed.
« Last Edit: October 19, 2024, 04:40:20 pm by Fungus »
 

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Re: Rigol DHO804 Test and Compare Thread
« Reply #1132 on: October 19, 2024, 04:11:23 pm »
Please have a look at the data label. It delivers all the USB PD voltages between 5 and 20 Volts. This type of power supply is also delivered with the new Rigol function generators and multimeters with DHO form factor.

I was always wondering why the scopes dont't come with it. Now Rigol has changed that.
 
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Re: Rigol DHO804 Test and Compare Thread
« Reply #1133 on: October 19, 2024, 04:17:05 pm »
I couldn't resist to get one of the DHO804 at the current bargain price (~370€, VAT included)

Is 370 with or without VAT?
Where did you found DHO804 at 300€ + VAT, please?
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Re: Rigol DHO804 Test and Compare Thread
« Reply #1134 on: October 19, 2024, 04:31:14 pm »
https://www.tequipment.net/Rigol/DHO804/Digital-Oscilloscopes/

439->373 special offer

Not sure it is VAT inclusive, however..
Readers discretion is advised..
 
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Re: Rigol DHO804 Test and Compare Thread
« Reply #1135 on: October 19, 2024, 06:32:39 pm »
Is 370 with or without VAT?
Where did you found DHO804 at 300€ + VAT, please?

On Banggood, two weeks ago the "DHO804" was offered for 367.99€, shipping and 19% German VAT included. I opted for the shipping insurance and put in a small coupon, so I ended up just below 370€. Peculiarly, the advertisement nowhere mentioned the brand "Rigol", and even in the photos of the scope, the phrase was removed. Obviously, I received the scope in its original Rigol box, yet with chinese language preset (no-brainer) and a "mickey mouse" mains cable with a chinese plug at the other end. Also no big deal.

Unfortunately, now you will only find the DHO802 at that price there. I don't know if it was an error and the "early birds" got lucky or if they simply ran out of stock...

Sorry for this unfortunate news.
 
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Re: Rigol DHO804 Test and Compare Thread
« Reply #1136 on: October 19, 2024, 06:42:48 pm »
"Spurlos" in the invoice, like "Spurlos verschwunden".. Luckily you got it..  :D
Readers discretion is advised..
 
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Re: Rigol DHO804 Test and Compare Thread
« Reply #1137 on: October 19, 2024, 06:48:12 pm »
"Spurlos" in the invoice, like "Spurlos verschwunden".. Luckily you got it..  :D

Yes, that's quite funny. But they e-mailed me a working tracking link right after they shipped the parcel. Maybe they were just too lazy to copy the tracking info to the invoice...
 
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Re: Rigol DHO804 Test and Compare Thread
« Reply #1138 on: October 21, 2024, 07:37:08 am »
It went as low as 358,05€ weeks ago, and 350,57€ last May from Banggood. Is there a downside though? How can Banggod offer such a discount? Does Rigol know or support this?
 

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Re: Rigol DHO804 Test and Compare Thread
« Reply #1139 on: October 21, 2024, 10:39:56 am »
You will notice this when you register the product online and/or check the warranty.

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Re: Rigol DHO804 Test and Compare Thread
« Reply #1140 on: October 21, 2024, 01:33:56 pm »
You will notice this when you register the product online and/or check the warranty.

Not that I really worry about any warranty -- when I'm done with the scope, I'll have voided it many times anyway  8)

But just out of curiosity, I entered the S/N of mine on eu.rigol.com to check the warranty status, and here's what it tells:
 
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Re: Rigol DHO804 Test and Compare Thread
« Reply #1141 on: October 21, 2024, 02:03:31 pm »
It went as low as 358,05€ weeks ago, and 350,57€ last May from Banggood. Is there a downside though? How can Banggod offer such a discount? Does Rigol know or support this?

Greed is one of the seven deadly sins.. :)
Readers discretion is advised..
 
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Re: Rigol DHO804 Test and Compare Thread
« Reply #1142 on: October 21, 2024, 02:51:38 pm »
Plus.....See my signature. ;)


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Re: Rigol DHO804 Test and Compare Thread
« Reply #1143 on: February 13, 2025, 06:14:40 pm »
Just picked up an 804 - love it so far.
to be used mostly for audio related work ( guitar amp / pro audio builds and repairs ).

-pete
 
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Re: Rigol DHO804 Test and Compare Thread
« Reply #1144 on: Yesterday at 08:18:40 am »
May I ask how the date and time after "DHO804" on the screenshot is generated
 


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