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Title: Rigol DS1052E vs LeCroy WaveAce 101
Post by: john_guitar on September 09, 2013, 08:30:48 pm
Greetings,

I want to buy an oscilloscope and I am between the following two:
Rigol DS1052E
LeCroy WaveAce 101

Any opinions?

Thanks
Title: Re: Rigol DS1052E vs LeCroy WaveAce 101
Post by: Kjelt on September 09, 2013, 08:41:12 pm
How much is that LeCroy? About €700 ? Then why not compare to the Rigol 2000 series?  :-//
Title: Re: Rigol DS1052E vs LeCroy WaveAce 101
Post by: SLJ on September 09, 2013, 09:01:56 pm
+1

The LeCroy is in the 2000 series price range. Compare it to that.
Title: Re: Rigol DS1052E vs LeCroy WaveAce 101
Post by: olsenn on September 09, 2013, 09:07:59 pm
I have a brand new (only used once to test it) LeCroy WaveAce 102 (60MHz, 500MSa/s) DSO here I can sell you for $200. PM me if you're interested.
Title: Re: Rigol DS1052E vs LeCroy WaveAce 101
Post by: Hydrawerk on September 09, 2013, 09:14:51 pm
LeCroy WaveAce series is a rebranded Siglent. Compare attached pictures. The button layout is exactly the same!!
LeCroy Waveace 112 ?????? ATTEN ADS1102CM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaIuSnODbOM#ws)
Title: Re: Rigol DS1052E vs LeCroy WaveAce 101
Post by: echen1024 on September 10, 2013, 01:04:40 am
If you want the LeCroy, just go buy a Siglent on eBay. Same damn thing, but with 7" screen, longer memory, and cheaper price. A SDS1072CML (70MHz, 1Mpts) is just around $300.
Title: Re: Rigol DS1052E vs LeCroy WaveAce 101
Post by: rf-loop on September 10, 2013, 08:13:43 am
Greetings,

I want to buy an oscilloscope and I am between the following two:
Rigol DS1052E
LeCroy WaveAce 101

Any opinions?

Thanks

This is Siglent made for Teledyne.
I do not know if they still continue this model for Teledyne - I seriously doubt.

Siglent  have time ago informed that all these ancient models have finally stopped in production 2013-04-30
But - old stocks - yes still available some and perhaps this is also Teledyne case..
New hardware is better. Also FW have developed.

Quote
2013-03-26

The Notice of Siglent SDS1000 series stop production

Dear honored partners,

Thanks very much for your support and attention to Siglent all the way along. As SDS1000L series, with 7" LCD display and higher cost performance, have been launched, we would like to notice you that Siglent will stop manufacturing SDS1000C/D/CM/CN/CF/CE with 5.7" LCD display after 30th April, 2013.


SIGLENT TECHNOLOGIES CO., LTD
March. 2013

Title: Re: Rigol DS1052E vs LeCroy WaveAce 101
Post by: Hydrawerk on September 10, 2013, 02:28:59 pm
What about SDS3000. https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/spotted-new-birds-%28siglent%29/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/spotted-new-birds-%28siglent%29/)
Title: Re: Rigol DS1052E vs LeCroy WaveAce 101
Post by: rf-loop on September 10, 2013, 03:24:01 pm
First coming SDS2000  (perhaps september?)

Edit/Add:
For clarify: Table is from Siglent. I'm not responsible about any possible errors there.

MSO3000, originally there read High resolution but word resolution was out of border line and only High was visibl --> repaired now..
Title: Re: Rigol DS1052E vs LeCroy WaveAce 101
Post by: Hydrawerk on September 10, 2013, 05:37:20 pm
Agilent DSOX2000 series has high resolution mode. It should be in your table.
Title: Re: Rigol DS1052E vs LeCroy WaveAce 101
Post by: rf-loop on September 10, 2013, 06:50:55 pm
Agilent DSOX2000 series has high resolution mode. It should be in your table.

Thanks, good finding.

Original table have it but last column was adjusted accidentally too narrow. In picture there was word "High" but word "resolution" was dropped out of .xlsx table border. Repaired to table png image.
Title: Re: Rigol DS1052E vs LeCroy WaveAce 101
Post by: PA4TIM on September 10, 2013, 07:15:52 pm
Quote
LeCroy WaveAce series is a rebranded Siglent. Compare attached pictures. The button layout is exactly the same!!

Yes, the buttons, psu etc are very much alike. But if you look at the bottom PCB the LeCroy has a very big black mulipin IC (fpga ? ) and the Atten has one that is about 1/4th of that size. So they share the cabinet and psu but the heart of the scopes are different. So I would not call that rebranded. It is made by Atten or siglent but it looks like it is not a just a rebranded copy. I think a brand like Agilent or LeCroy has enough knowledge to give them a design or make mods according there wishes. Maybe better parts. They do not have to make it dead cheep and so it just last the warranty periode, It must be good enough not to trow away there name with customers also buying there more expensive products and give support/service.

Even a lot of components from China are fake but many here are the first to write that when two scopes have the same cabinets, that they are thus totally the same and it is no use to buy the A-brand.
Title: Re: Rigol DS1052E vs LeCroy WaveAce 101
Post by: rf-loop on September 10, 2013, 07:45:27 pm
Quote
LeCroy WaveAce series is a rebranded Siglent. Compare attached pictures. The button layout is exactly the same!!

Yes, the buttons, psu etc are very much alike. But if you look at the bottom PCB the LeCroy has a very big black mulipin IC (fpga ? ) and the Atten has one that is about 1/4th of that size. So they share the cabinet and psu but the heart of the scopes are different. So I would not call that rebranded. It is made by Atten or siglent but it looks like it is not a just a rebranded copy. I think a brand like Agilent or LeCroy has enough knowledge to give them a design or make mods according there wishes. Maybe better parts. They do not have to make it dead cheep and so it just last the warranty periode, It must be good enough not to trow away there name with customers also buying there more expensive products and give support/service.

Even a lot of components from China are fake but many here are the first to write that when two scopes have the same cabinets, that they are thus totally the same and it is no use to buy the A-brand.

Afaik, Atten do not have factory for make digital osciloscopes.
These Teledyne are made and designed by Siglent.
Title: Re: Rigol DS1052E vs LeCroy WaveAce 101
Post by: tinhead on September 10, 2013, 07:47:23 pm
But if you look at the bottom PCB the LeCroy has a very big black mulipin IC (fpga ? ) and the Atten has one that is about 1/4th of that size.

there are multiple hardware revisions, LeCroy (this one) is having older hw revision than used by Siglent/ATTEN. I know about at least two, not sure about third version.
Title: Re: Rigol DS1052E vs LeCroy WaveAce 101
Post by: larry42 on September 10, 2013, 10:26:03 pm
Doesn't this question appear on a weekly basis. Based on specs alone I would never get the WaveAce - memory is pitiful.


Greetings,

I want to buy an oscilloscope and I am between the following two:
Rigol DS1052E
LeCroy WaveAce 101

Any opinions?

Thanks
Title: Re: Rigol DS1052E vs LeCroy WaveAce 101
Post by: echen1024 on September 11, 2013, 01:46:29 am
LeCroy is sort of crap. Rebranded shit sold at 3 times the price! Amazing! Just go get a Siglent SDS1072CML and you will not be disappointed. Also, any more info on the SDS2000/3000 series, including prices? They look mighty interesting.
Title: Re: Rigol DS1052E vs LeCroy WaveAce 101
Post by: Hydrawerk on September 11, 2013, 01:59:33 am
Well, Tektronix does no rebranding. Agilent 1000 series is made by Rigol, but he scopes tdo not look exactly the same... The front panel layout is abit different.
While LeCroy is the same as Siglent. They did not make any desigh change.