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| tooki:
--- Quote from: klausES on January 29, 2020, 12:19:25 am ---Tried another Bourns encoder today (PEC12R-4220F-S0024). Its latching is not on an edge (datasheet and measured in real terms). The same behavior can be seen as with the Alps. There are 2 steps in the menus etc. between two screenings. |O As with the Alps, speed also plays no role in this behavior. --- End quote --- That, too, is a 1:1 ratio encoder. I think it's highly likely you need a 2:1 encoder. Besides, isn't that a through-hole encoder? Why would you buy that instead of an SMD one? Try one I list in the post above. --- Quote from: klausES on January 29, 2020, 12:19:25 am ---The Bourns can be handled better because it does not have the pointy grid as the Alps, but none of this was planned. --- End quote --- What do you mean by a grid? And what do you mean by a pointy grid?? --- Quote from: klausES on January 29, 2020, 12:19:25 am ---What else did they change with the newer board besides smd? Actually impossible illogical because these two encoders (apart from standing on the flank at the Alps, the Bourns doesn't do this), if you think away the purely mechanical screening, do nothing else than the original encoder. --- End quote --- What? --- Quote from: klausES on January 29, 2020, 12:19:25 am ---... except converting the original encoder to a grid. --- End quote --- Again, grid?? --- Quote from: klausES on January 29, 2020, 12:19:25 am ---Another warning: When unsoldering the Alps (i.e. the 2nd unsoldering process on this board at the point), four of the five soldering pads said goodbye. And i am experienced for smd soldering ... The board looks really nice, but it seems very sensitive here. --- End quote --- That sucks. :( I do find SMD pads to be much, much easier to lift than THT ones, generally speaking. |
| klausES:
I still wanted to try a 30 detend 15 impulse encoder, luckily I don't need that anymore. --- Quote from: tooki on January 30, 2020, 03:17:17 pm --- --- Quote from: klausES on January 29, 2020, 12:19:25 am ---The Bourns can be handled better because it does not have the pointy grid as the Alps, but none of this was planned. --- End quote --- What do you mean by a grid? And what do you mean by a pointy grid??... --- End quote --- I meant detent and whether the detent runs fine and soft or mechanically hard and difficult to tackle at the tips. Thanks for your detailed answers. |
| Adrian_Arg.:
--- Quote from: klausES on January 30, 2020, 12:05:13 am ---Since this is technically the same as the Alps I tried, probably not. Remember, this only affects the new DS1000Z with the new control PCB (with the SMD encoder) such as with mine. The older versions seem to be running (that would be the Alps type that many used). --- End quote --- What version of PCB does your rigol ds1000z have? |
| klausES:
You mean specifically the encoder board ? Mine probably has the latest with the encoders as SMD. "Keyboard A V01.02" Mainboard is "V01.04" |
| ebastler:
One thing that baffles me in this context: As Rigol did change the PCB design and the BOM of the front panel board anyway -- why didn't they introduce a detented encoder for the menu selection knob?! They must have someone listening to customer feedback, including the discussions and advice on this forum? :-// |
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