| Products > Test Equipment |
| Rigol DS1054Z rotary encoder mod *works!* |
| << < (8/28) > >> |
| TMM:
--- Quote from: alsetalokin4017 on September 03, 2015, 09:16:47 am ---I just think it's pretty silly to spend an hour of your valuable time, plus the cost of the encoder, to change something on your crappy, practically disposable, under $400 scope to begin with, when the fault that is being "fixed" isn't in the scope, but rather is in the user. --- End quote --- Rubbish. I've owned a DS1054Z since release and the rotary encoder STILL catches me out at least once every time I use it. It's not a PEBKAC, it's a design flaw. Rotary encoders without detents just shouldn't be used for menus if the shaft push button is being used for selecting the current item. It's made worse by the menu lag so you tend to 'fly around' until you land on the correct item and then you have no idea if you are right on the edge of a position and some tiny amount of additional rotation is going to make it skip to the next menu item while you press the shaft button in. Sure you can increase you chances of mis-selecting items by rotating it as slow as a snail so you have some idea that you are in the center of a position while you press the button, or be super careful not to rotate the knob while you press it in but either method is more frustrating than if it just had detents in the first place. Adding detents solves all problems entirely. The fact that I have probably wasted all of 3 minutes of my life so far accidentally selecting the wrong thing doesn't mean that it hasn't already cost me 1hr+ in reduced productivity from frustration. Therefore, it is worth spending an hour and a few dollars doing the mod if I plan to keep the scope for another few years. I'm pretty confident that my unit isn't going to die in the arse tomorrow since it has been going well so far, so voiding the warranty is a risk that I and others would be prepared to take at this stage. |
| ebastler:
I think Rigol could easily fix the biggest encoder-related annoyance (wrong selection because the knob is inadvertently turned while pressing it) in software: Just ignore any encoder changes that occur within xx milliseconds before the button is pressed. But I still like the idea of an encoder with detents, which gives you direct haptic feedback: One detent click equals one step in the menu. I guess I will give the modification a try at some time. Question to those who have already implemented the mod: Do the detents get distracting when you have to spin the knob many times, for the analog parameter selections? |
| Fungus:
--- Quote from: ebastler on September 03, 2015, 03:26:33 pm ---I think Rigol could easily fix the biggest encoder-related annoyance (wrong selection because the knob is inadvertently turned while pressing it) in software: Just ignore any encoder changes that occur within xx milliseconds before the button is pressed. --- End quote --- Even better: Make it so you can press the menu button to make a selection as well as the encoder. ie. Push 'menu', twiddle knob, push 'menu' again. |
| 5ky:
I need to do something like this to my DP832A. It's like the steps on the encoder are about 1/3 of a step out of phase with the detents and makes it impossible to move voltage or current up/down one notch at a time because every 3rd or 4th turn it skips a digit. Really infuriating. |O |
| Howardlong:
--- Quote from: alsetalokin4017 on September 03, 2015, 09:16:47 am ---Why didn't they buy a "real" scope from Agilent --- End quote --- Many have done. I know I did. But I also wanted a scope for field work, and for that the Rigol fits the bill in terms of portability, features and disposability. --- Quote ---I just think it's pretty silly to spend an hour of your valuable time, plus the cost of the encoder, to change something on your crappy, practically disposable, under $400 scope to begin with, when the fault that is being "fixed" isn't in the scope, but rather is in the user. --- End quote --- And yet you were prepared to spend money on a replacement fan, and a similar amount of time doing the replacement? --- Quote ---Hey, it's your scope, modify it if you want. --- End quote --- Exactly, could not agree more! Relax! O0 |
| Navigation |
| Message Index |
| Next page |
| Previous page |