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Products => Test Equipment => Topic started by: 0xdeadbeef on September 30, 2019, 06:24:03 pm

Title: Rigol DS/MSO 5000 700 8000 full packages
Post by: 0xdeadbeef on September 30, 2019, 06:24:03 pm
Just in case nobody else noticed: probably in response to the R&S "full package" offerings, Rigol also seems to offer full packages for MSO5000, DS7000, MSO7000 and MSO8000 now.
MSO5000 € 1999€
DS7000 3999€
MSO7000 4999€
MSO8000 8999€
All prices without VAT.
The MSO5000 full package doesn't seem to contain the logic probe (PLA2216) though. So not really a full package. Or maybe I misread this.
Title: Re: Rigol DS/MSO 5000 700 8000 full packages
Post by: Sighound36 on September 30, 2019, 06:27:42 pm
I believe the MSO8000 the logic probe is extra as well, the 7000 is included.
Title: Re: Rigol DS/MSO 5000 700 8000 full packages
Post by: GerryR on September 30, 2019, 06:30:15 pm
Gee, at those prices, I'm going to run right out and get a couple.  ::)  Seriously, though, I guess if you have the money you can save some dollars on the package deals.
Title: Re: Rigol DS/MSO 5000 700 8000 full packages
Post by: rvalente on September 30, 2019, 06:36:23 pm
How much is the logic probe itself?
Title: Re: Rigol DS/MSO 5000 700 8000 full packages
Post by: 0xdeadbeef on September 30, 2019, 06:46:49 pm
299€ without VAT for the MSO5000. Dunno about the MSO8000. Doesn't seem to be listed.
Strange anyway, that the black MSOs come without logic probe but the white MSO does. It's also the only one with a DS line which can't be upgraded to MSO

BTW: I'd hope Siglent would jump the bandwagon even though I'll probably look out for some used LeCroy or R&S anyway.
Title: Re: Rigol DS/MSO 5000 700 8000 full packages
Post by: tv84 on September 30, 2019, 06:56:45 pm
It's also the only one with a DS line which can't be upgraded to MSO

Incorrect. There are MSO7000 for sale. And as I've shown they can even be "modeled" MSO7104.
Title: Re: Rigol DS/MSO 5000 700 8000 full packages
Post by: 0xdeadbeef on September 30, 2019, 06:59:54 pm
It's also the only one with a DS line which can't be upgraded to MSO

Incorrect. There are MSO7000 for sale. And as I've shown they can even be "modeled" MSO7104.
I re-read my posting and don't get why you would misunderstand it. Perfectly valid statement IMHO.
To rephrase it: the 7000 series is the only one which features a DS line that can't be upgraded to MSO.
Title: Re: Rigol DS/MSO 5000 700 8000 full packages
Post by: tv84 on September 30, 2019, 07:04:24 pm
To rephrase it: the 7000 series is the only one which features a DS line that can't be upgraded to MSO.

Sorry, didn't understand it that way.

Nonetheless, as I remember, a DS7000 can be converted to MSO and, as such, to a MSO7104. So, DS was only a marketing exercise.

Correction edit: Well, we can do a DS7104... :)
Title: Re: Rigol DS/MSO 5000 700 8000 full packages
Post by: 0xdeadbeef on September 30, 2019, 07:34:55 pm
I faintly recall that it's not only the connector that's missing but also several ICs not placed on the PCB. So a conversion is probably not for the faint at heart.
But I may be wrong and am too lazy to look it up.
Title: Re: Rigol DS/MSO 5000 700 8000 full packages
Post by: tv84 on September 30, 2019, 08:25:01 pm
You're right. So deep in the FW analysis that I truly never had seen a DS7000 pic!  |O |O

Surely, official videos like this one didn't help...

Rigol DS7000 Presentation (https://youtu.be/2HGk1hZpOpA)   :palm:
Title: Re: Rigol DS/MSO 5000 700 8000 full packages
Post by: Martin72 on October 01, 2019, 07:49:09 pm
Quote
MSO5000 € 1999€

https://www.batronix.com/versand/oszilloskope/Rigol-MSO5K.html (https://www.batronix.com/versand/oszilloskope/Rigol-MSO5K.html)

This is going to be a real killer....for this price the rigol mso5 is the best choice.

And I´m somekind of pissed.
I´ve bought the mso5074 for appx 1100, for an bandwith upgrade to 350Mhz I would pay actually 2199€  :o

Title: Re: Rigol DS/MSO 5000 700 8000 full packages
Post by: 0xdeadbeef on October 01, 2019, 10:14:49 pm
I might add that not only the logic analyzer cables are missing for the MSO5000 and MSO8000 but also the memory upgrades seem to be missing for all "full packages".
So Rigol's "full package" is a bit of misleading compared to e.g. the R&S offerings which really contain every option. Besides, I still can't find this promotion on Rigol's site.
Title: Re: Rigol DS/MSO 5000 700 8000 full packages
Post by: Sighound36 on October 02, 2019, 08:13:38 am
Hi Ox

The 8000 has 500Mpts as standard feature I believe
Title: Re: Rigol DS/MSO 5000 700 8000 full packages
Post by: egonotto on June 10, 2024, 02:09:11 am
Hello,

Batronix is currently offering the Rigol MSO5074 with the MSO5000 option bundle included for € 950.81.
If you are prepared to pay € 11.9 more, i.e. € 962.71, you can even get the Rigol MSO5072 without the option bundle.

Best regards
egonotto
Title: Re: Rigol DS/MSO 5000 700 8000 full packages
Post by: seppeltronics on June 11, 2024, 04:03:41 pm
The MSO5k and MSO7k are nearly identical, I have used both.

The Benefit of the MS7k:

+ Better LA-Probes, the connector system of the MSO7k is definitely better.
+ Higher bandwidth.
+ 50 Ohm Termination.
+ Bigger Screen (However the MSO5k is acceptable and I think has less glare)
+ Front Cover included

The Probe-Detect is not that helpful, I never needed that. For the average user, go for the MSO5k. Get some 50Ohm through-terminations.

Rigol's Front Covers are good, I recommend getting one for your MSO5k.