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Rigol HDO1000 and HDO4000 12bit oscilloscopes launched in China
Antonio90:
--- Quote from: 2N3055 on November 22, 2023, 04:44:10 pm ---If we are going to speculate, to me, it seems that Rigol has no defined strategy at all, from what I can observe.
They now have portofolio of 16 active scope models (with subdivisions in BW added):
DS1000D/E
DS1000Z/Plus
DS1000Z-E
DS2000A
MSO2000A
MSO5000E
MSO5000
DS7000
MSO7000
MSO8000
MSO8000A
DS70000
DHO800
DHO900
DHO1000
DHO4000
R&S has 9 lines, including portable ones. Siglent has 10 including portable ones. Keysight has 11 lines, from Infiniivision 1000X to 110GHz Infiniium UXR–B. LeCroy has 11 (if we disregards Siglent rebadges) from 3000Z to 65 GHz Wavemaster and LabMasters.
All these manufacturers have careful positioning of all those to match full gamut.
Rigol made chipset and were under extreme pressure to use it for something and they simply made random 4 scopes.
These scopes are de facto marketing research for them.
They will see how well it goes, what people are complaining about and then kill some and make some new models.
They will sell some, make some money... Move on.
This is how it looks to me... A completely reactive approach, with no visible long term strategy..
It is complete mystery what they are doing..
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It is certainly quite strange. I also especulate that some of the DHO lineups will be abandoned rather quickly, or at least they will stop selling them.
My bet is the DHO1000. The DHO900 doesn't look very good either.
I don't know about the 4000, and the 800 seems like a really nice scope for the price.
David Hess:
--- Quote from: 2N3055 on November 22, 2023, 04:44:10 pm ---If we are going to speculate, to me, it seems that Rigol has no defined strategy at all, from what I can observe.
They now have portofolio of 16 active scope models (with subdivisions in BW added):
...
This is how it looks to me... A completely reactive approach, with no visible long term strategy..
It is complete mystery what they are doing..
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I was thinking that Rigol considers their development and design teams expendable, so that they effectively start over with each new series.
ebastler:
--- Quote from: 2N3055 on November 22, 2023, 04:44:10 pm ---If we are going to speculate, to me, it seems that Rigol has no defined strategy at all, from what I can observe.
They now have portofolio of 16 active scope models (with subdivisions in BW added):
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Part of the reason why the list is so long is just naming conventions. Defining DHO800 and 900 as separate families rather than just versions of the same product is a bit artificial -- the main thing it achieves is to create a clearer "hacking boundary" between the two, it seems, where additional encoders and maximum bandwidth are not easily hackable. Likewise with the MSO5000E as a separate model, which could also have been part of the MSO5000 lineup.
Another part of the reason is that they seem to never discontinue a product line. ;)
--- Quote ---Rigol made chipset and were under extreme pressure to use it for something and they simply made random 4 scopes.
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Again, I'd say its closer to 3 DHO scope lines, and that does not seem unreasonable. The naming conventions have shifted a bit; the product lines would normally be 1000, 2000 and 4000/5000 (in the prior Rigol portfolio or competing brands). But the decision to launch LA and AWG functionality first in the low-end product is very strange indeed...
Antonio90:
--- Quote from: ebastler --- But the decision to launch LA and AWG functionality first in the low-end product is very strange indeed...
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¿Maybe they want free beta-testing before releasing them in a more expensive scope?
ebastler:
--- Quote from: David Hess on November 22, 2023, 04:56:17 pm ---I was thinking that Rigol considers their development and design teams expendable, so that they effectively start over with each new series.
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What makes you say that? There clearly is a platform strategy across the DHO 800/900, 1000 and 4000 software and hardware. Compared to the prior generation of products there is a lot of new development, transitioning to new ADCs, touch screens and OS. But the prior generation's architecture dates back 9 years or so, so that effort seems adequate.
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