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Re: Rigol HDO1000 and HDO4000 12bit oscilloscopes launched in China
« Reply #500 on: December 01, 2022, 05:43:53 am »
For those interested, Rigol EU now has a 10% promotion for the 1k series.

I wonder how their math works? I've tried to get "10%" from their numbers, and failed. Seems like more than 10% to me. :-//


 

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Re: Rigol HDO1000 and HDO4000 12bit oscilloscopes launched in China
« Reply #501 on: December 01, 2022, 07:46:49 am »
For those interested, Rigol EU now has a 10% promotion for the 1k series.

I wonder how their math works? I've tried to get "10%" from their numbers, and failed. Seems like more than 10% to me. :-//



999 down to 899 is roughly 10%..
And then prices with tax just get calculated..
« Last Edit: December 01, 2022, 08:22:27 am by 2N3055 »
 
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Re: Rigol HDO1000 and HDO4000 12bit oscilloscopes launched in China
« Reply #502 on: December 01, 2022, 08:02:25 am »
I wonder how their math works?

1188.81*0.9=1069.92....
 
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Re: Rigol HDO1000 and HDO4000 12bit oscilloscopes launched in China
« Reply #503 on: December 01, 2022, 08:10:31 am »
For those interested, Rigol EU now has a 10% promotion for the 1k series.

I wonder how their math works? I've tried to get "10%" from their numbers, and failed. Seems like more than 10% to me. :-//



1,188.81  down to 1069.81   is  ~10%  save.
 
I wonder how your math works?
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Re: Rigol HDO1000 and HDO4000 12bit oscilloscopes launched in China
« Reply #504 on: December 01, 2022, 11:07:21 am »
I wonder how your math works?

Duh.  :palm:

I was doing 1188.81 / 1069.81

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« Reply #505 on: December 01, 2022, 03:56:43 pm »
Fungus, inverted as always...   ;D
 
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Re: Rigol HDO1000 and HDO4000 12bit oscilloscopes launched in China
« Reply #506 on: December 07, 2022, 07:40:13 pm »
This store says they have them in stock -1072-74?
https://rigolshop.eu/
 

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Re: Rigol HDO1000 and HDO4000 12bit oscilloscopes launched in China
« Reply #507 on: December 08, 2022, 12:21:10 pm »
Yes. They finish delivery for older orders.
 

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Re: Rigol HDO1000 and HDO4000 12bit oscilloscopes launched in China
« Reply #508 on: December 08, 2022, 12:26:24 pm »
Someone asked about the app windows.
When they are more that two active on the screen, they can be moved between them. Actually it is possible. When you pick by the move icon a grey rectangle will appear suggesting a possible placement.
You cannot resize by drag or overlapp one over another. They will autoresize.
Anyway with too many open windows the scope became very slow.
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« Reply #509 on: December 08, 2022, 12:53:21 pm »
Anyway with too many open windows the scope became very slow.

Oh, now we're going to complain about that...?  :-DD

 

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« Reply #510 on: December 08, 2022, 01:32:38 pm »
Anyway with too many open windows the scope became very slow.

Oh, now we're going to complain about that...?  :-DD

Right now, FW bugs apart, there is only one thing i would complain about : FAN noise.

IMHO it's barely acceptable, much louder than DS1054Z, i would ask to Rigol an additional warranty sticker with official permission to open scope and change those t**** with something decent, at my expense.

What I do not understand is that there is plenty of space for at least 25mm deep FANs, where now we have 2x 60x60x15 19CFM @ 3600 that when are cold make buzz/rattle sound.

I measured average power draw, is around 46 Wrms (2 Wrms in standby),  all this noise is not justified.
 

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« Reply #511 on: December 08, 2022, 03:07:49 pm »
Anyway with too many open windows the scope became very slow.

Oh, now we're going to complain about that...?  :-DD
This can't be a complain, just an observation. Can't be part in a normal use case scenario. I have put so many windows on screen to show how they behave.
 
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« Reply #512 on: December 08, 2022, 03:26:10 pm »
Anyway with too many open windows the scope became very slow.

Oh, now we're going to complain about that...?  :-DD
This can't be a complain, just an observation. Can't be part in a normal use case scenario. I have put so many windows on screen to show how they behave.

It would be nice to be able to turn off the screen for remote operation.
 

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« Reply #513 on: December 08, 2022, 03:50:50 pm »
I have put so many windows on screen to show how they behave.

And totally failed to observe that putting multiple "windows" on screen is totally unheard of in a scope at this price level.

(until now)

From the screenshots I've seen: This 'scope appears to be much, much more than just a "low noise" oscilloscope. It's another real game-changer from Rigol.
 

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« Reply #514 on: December 08, 2022, 04:09:22 pm »
I have put so many windows on screen to show how they behave.

And totally failed to observe that putting multiple "windows" on screen is totally unheard of in a scope at this price level.



You are wrong. I have said that I put many windows on screen because only with more than two windows you can change their position. I have added that the scope became slow just as a mention that it will not be a working scenario for anyone. It's not about price level. Any embeded device will start to react slow as long as you start to activate more applications in the same time.
P.S. Maybe I wasn't explained very well. I remember that also some peoples failed to understand what I have said in tjhe past ...
 

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« Reply #515 on: December 08, 2022, 04:17:14 pm »
I have put so many windows on screen to show how they behave.

And totally failed to observe that putting multiple "windows" on screen is totally unheard of in a scope at this price level.

(until now)

From the screenshots I've seen: This 'scope appears to be much, much more than just a "low noise" oscilloscope. It's another real game-changer from Rigol.

I would say that a couple of windows at the same time are not bad at all :
 

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Re: Rigol HDO1000 and HDO4000 12bit oscilloscopes launched in China
« Reply #516 on: December 08, 2022, 04:33:56 pm »
Yes , on two apps the scope response is pretty well. 
 

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« Reply #517 on: December 08, 2022, 04:55:17 pm »
Yes , on two apps the scope response is pretty well.

Yep and i'm impressed by the FFT function, this is my first personal DSO that can be operated as a Spectrum analyzer with FFT, with a decent sensitivity.
 

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« Reply #518 on: December 08, 2022, 05:05:03 pm »
Yes , on two apps the scope response is pretty well.

Yep and i'm impressed by the FFT function, this is my first personal DSO that can be operated as a Spectrum analyzer with FFT, with a decent sensitivity.

If you have the time, some examples would be appreciated.
 

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« Reply #519 on: December 08, 2022, 05:17:55 pm »


From the screenshots I've seen: This 'scope appears to be much, much more than just a "low noise" oscilloscope. It's another real game-changer from Rigol.

Especially if you think that the 2 channels come at 699 plus taxes, even less during sales.
 

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Re: Rigol HDO1000 and HDO4000 12bit oscilloscopes launched in China
« Reply #520 on: December 08, 2022, 07:19:19 pm »
Yep and i'm impressed by the FFT function, this is my first personal DSO that can be operated as a Spectrum analyzer with FFT, with a decent sensitivity.

If you have the time, some examples would be appreciated.

Q: Can it display the frequencies of the peaks in the FFT?
 

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« Reply #521 on: December 08, 2022, 09:25:45 pm »
Yep and i'm impressed by the FFT function, this is my first personal DSO that can be operated as a Spectrum analyzer with FFT, with a decent sensitivity.

If you have the time, some examples would be appreciated.

Q: Can it display the frequencies of the peaks in the FFT?
Yep, you can activate a table with peak frequencies and level.
 

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« Reply #522 on: December 08, 2022, 09:34:44 pm »
Yes , on two apps the scope response is pretty well.

Yep and i'm impressed by the FFT function, this is my first personal DSO that can be operated as a Spectrum analyzer with FFT, with a decent sensitivity.

If you have the time, some examples would be appreciated.

To put it simple you have a single menu with everything you need with no hassle, a decent dynamic range and good refresh rate in awesome LCD panel.
 
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Re: Rigol HDO1000 and HDO4000 12bit oscilloscopes launched in China
« Reply #523 on: December 08, 2022, 10:28:03 pm »
Yep and i'm impressed by the FFT function, this is my first personal DSO that can be operated as a Spectrum analyzer with FFT, with a decent sensitivity.

If you have the time, some examples would be appreciated.

Q: Can it display the frequencies of the peaks in the FFT?

Also quite accurate with level, in attachment video with FFT of AM modulated signal : Fc 1MHz -56 dBm (-69dBV), AM 10KHz-30%.

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Re: Rigol HDO1000 and HDO4000 12bit oscilloscopes launched in China
« Reply #524 on: December 08, 2022, 10:31:47 pm »
Yep and i'm impressed by the FFT function, this is my first personal DSO that can be operated as a Spectrum analyzer with FFT, with a decent sensitivity.

If you have the time, some examples would be appreciated.

Q: Can it display the frequencies of the peaks in the FFT?

Also quite accurate with level, in attachment video with FFT of AM modulated signal : Fc 1MHz -56 dBm (-69dBV), AM 10KHz-30%.
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