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Offline Daruosha

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Rigol MSO8000 Series
« on: April 17, 2019, 02:07:37 pm »
Anyone heard anything about Rigol MSO8000 series? Apparently they are launching a new series of scopes with 4 GHz bandwidth.

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Re: Rigol MSO8000 Series
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2019, 03:25:16 pm »
If it's $2000, I'll buy it on the pre-sale. Any chance of it having 12bit resolution?  :D
 

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Re: Rigol MSO8000 Series
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2019, 03:40:08 pm »
The bottom-tier DS7000 is $2700 for 100MHz at 8 bit, so that seems unlikely.
 

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Re: Rigol MSO8000 Series
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2019, 03:40:29 pm »
If it's $2000, I'll buy it on the pre-sale. Any chance of it having 12bit resolution?  :D

If it's $20000 (with max BW and all options and probes), I'll buy it on pre-sale.

It won't.

A topped off MSO7K would be already $11k, then count in the faster AFE/ADC/FPGA and probably doubling or quadrupling the DSP ASICs and the big part, 4*active probes for 2GHz, there's no way this thing as a complete set is going to be anywhere shy of $25k brand new.
 

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Re: Rigol MSO8000 Series
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2019, 07:06:38 pm »
A topped off MSO7K would be already $11k, then count in the faster AFE/ADC/FPGA and probably doubling or quadrupling the DSP ASICs and the big part, 4*active probes for 2GHz, there's no way this thing as a complete set is going to be anywhere shy of $25k brand new.

My 2.5GHz Keysight (MSOX6k, 6GHz capable) was US$14k fully optioned when I bought it last year.

Of course that's with passive probes, good active probes would be as much again.
 

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Re: Rigol MSO8000 Series
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2019, 07:16:41 pm »
A topped off MSO7K would be already $11k, then count in the faster AFE/ADC/FPGA and probably doubling or quadrupling the DSP ASICs and the big part, 4*active probes for 2GHz, there's no way this thing as a complete set is going to be anywhere shy of $25k brand new.

My 2.5GHz Keysight (MSOX6k, 6GHz capable) was US$14k fully optioned when I bought it last year.

Of course that's with passive probes, good active probes would be as much again.

FYI, I paid $8500 for the 6GHz version with all options. But that's not the point. It's luck, not MSRP.
 

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Re: Rigol MSO8000 Series
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2019, 07:33:19 pm »
Anyone heard anything about Rigol MSO8000 series? Apparently they are launching a new series of scopes with 4 GHz bandwidth.

Where did you find the 4 GHz bandwidth? I have always seen them described as "600 MHz to 2 GHz bandwidth, 10 GSa/s" in various brief announcements. E.g. here: https://www.temcom.com/rigol-announces-the-oscilloscopes-of-the-mso8000-series/
 

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Re: Rigol MSO8000 Series
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2019, 10:29:54 pm »
If it's $2000, I'll buy it on the pre-sale. Any chance of it having 12bit resolution?  :D

If it's $20000 (with max BW and all options and probes), I'll buy it on pre-sale.

It won't.

A topped off MSO7K would be already $11k, then count in the faster AFE/ADC/FPGA and probably doubling or quadrupling the DSP ASICs and the big part, 4*active probes for 2GHz, there's no way this thing as a complete set is going to be anywhere shy of $25k brand new.

These 'scopes are all hackable so far.

eg. In practice you can get the "$5000" version of the MSO5000 for $1000.
 

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Re: Rigol MSO8000 Series
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2019, 10:50:57 pm »
Actually the MSO7054 is listed at around 10k€, so I would expect the 600MHz MSO8000 entry model to be quite a bit above that. Most probably in the 12k to 15k range.

Side note: the DS7000/MSO7000 line doesn't seem to sell very well. On top of the free addons, you currently get a free bandwidth update. So actually it doesn't seem to make any sense at the moment to buy a DS7054 or MSO7054 as buying a DS7034 or MSO7034 will give you the same bandwidth.
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Re: Rigol MSO8000 Series
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2019, 06:56:47 am »
The MSO8000 series must be close to release. I got to check out the MSO8104 today.

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Re: Rigol MSO8000 Series
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2019, 09:07:16 am »
The MSO8000 series must be close to release. I got to check out the MSO8104 today.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rigol-mso8000-series/?action=dlattach;attach=761481;image

No price on the card to the right I guess?
Where was that?
 

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Re: Rigol MSO8000 Series
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2019, 09:27:08 am »
The MSO8000 series must be close to release. I got to check out the MSO8104 today.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rigol-mso8000-series/?action=dlattach;attach=761481;image

No price on the card to the right I guess?
Where was that?

It was at the EPTECH electronics show in Vancouver. I was pretty impressed that not only was the Canadian distributor there but an actual Rigol rep also came up for the show. He also mentioned all in stock 5000 series in Canada should have the updated LCD brightness and quieter fan.
No price yet. I commented that I liked the black finish and he said it has only a received a so/so reception thus far.

The new Tek 3 series scope was also there but that was busiest booth so I didn't get to play with it.

As usual, no Keysight dealers or products at all :(
« Last Edit: June 13, 2019, 09:28:46 am by TheSteve »
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Re: Rigol MSO8000 Series
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2019, 09:57:28 am »
If it's $2000, I'll buy it on the pre-sale. Any chance of it having 12bit resolution?  :D

Old post, I know, but definitely not.  Rigol developed their new acquisition system to be used across their product line, and it does not use 12 bit converters.  I think whenever the Phoenix II chipset comes around they'll move up to 10 bits, but I'd expect that's some years out still.
 


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