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Title: Rigol MSO/DS2000A and Rigol MSO/DS4000 look much nicer than Rigol MSO5000
Post by: pascal_sweden on June 20, 2020, 05:07:37 pm
I personally think that the Rigol MSO/DS2000A series and the Rigol MSO/DS4000 series look much nicer than the Rigol MSO5000 series.
Why did Rigol change to a cheaper looking design?

Moreover the screen on those older oscilloscopes are Matte instead of Glossy, which is a much better choice!
Why did Rigol change to a Glossy screen?

The Economy version of the Rigol MSO5000 series (MSO5000-E) looks even cheaper!

Rigol MSO/DS2000A series:
(https://int.rigol.com/Public/Uploads/uploadfile/images/20190827/20190827131711_5d64bcd7c32c2.png)

Rigol MSO/DS4000 series:
(https://int.rigol.com/Public/Uploads/uploadfile/images/20190827/20190827130758_5d64baae04700.png)

Rigol MSO5000 series:
(https://int.rigol.com/Public/Uploads/uploadfile/images/20190827/5da6ffbfdec47.png)

Rigol MSO5000-E series:
(https://int.rigol.com/Public/Uploads/uploadfile/images/20191105/20191105112652_5dc0ebfce88bc.png)
Title: Re: Rigol MSO/DS2000A and Rigol MSO/DS4000 look much nicer than Rigol MSO5000
Post by: james_s on June 20, 2020, 05:41:30 pm
I don't really have much of a preference. Neither is going to win any awards from me on styling but they all at least resemble serious instruments rather than looking like toys for children. I don't place a lot of emphasis on the appearance when shopping for tools, usability is far more important. 

I generally prefer glossy displays over matte although with a scope that may find use on a brightly lit bench I suppose matte could be better.
Title: Re: Rigol MSO/DS2000A and Rigol MSO/DS4000 look much nicer than Rigol MSO5000
Post by: tv84 on June 20, 2020, 06:22:56 pm
I personally think that the Rigol MSO/DS2000A series and the Rigol MSO/DS4000 series look much nicer than the Rigol MSO5000 series.

I challenge you to maintain the previous beautiness while cramming the size of MSO5000 screen in there.  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Rigol MSO/DS2000A and Rigol MSO/DS4000 look much nicer than Rigol MSO5000
Post by: 2N3055 on June 20, 2020, 06:31:54 pm
What is the purpose  of your last few topics?  Like the one how new Siglent had thicker buttons on previous models?
I'm not complaining, I'm just confused.
Instruments are not consumer products. Nobody cares about Apple like design on scope. And for better. If Apple designed the scope it would have one button and all channels would be same shade of grey...

Like tv84 says, these new scopes have more functions than ever before. It is actually amazing how well they balance all that complexity.
Title: Re: Rigol MSO/DS2000A and Rigol MSO/DS4000 look much nicer than Rigol MSO5000
Post by: tv84 on June 20, 2020, 06:46:00 pm
What is the purpose  of your last few topics?  Like the one how new Siglent had thicker buttons on previous models?

Probably he's being sponsored to stir up the forum...

I suggest as a next theme:

"Rigol vs Siglent vs GWInstek: which one's has the best grey color in its instruments"

Once we reach an agreement, we add the A-Brands!   :popcorn:
Title: Re: Rigol MSO/DS2000A and Rigol MSO/DS4000 look much nicer than Rigol MSO5000
Post by: Sighound36 on June 20, 2020, 07:03:39 pm
Well I like the newer Rigol layout (even if the buttons are somewhat daftly marked  :-DD)

Happily cope with just one vertical knob  :wtf:, no really  :-DD the Lecroy uses just one vertical device happy with that as well, so the Siglent guys are in good company.

As has been mentioned, these are designed for test and measurement use not poncing about down Hollywood boulevard worrying if my handbag dog wifi finder has basic diamond encrusting or the flawless facet variety  :o

Its easy borrow a scope does it fit your needs and quirks or not, if not try another one very simple.

Next it will be, does Tautech's bum look big in a SDS6000 pro suit  |O
Title: Re: Rigol MSO/DS2000A and Rigol MSO/DS4000 look much nicer than Rigol MSO5000
Post by: NoisyBoy on June 20, 2020, 07:20:14 pm
Agree with others, I care about capability and usability, a scope is not a dress watch.

The MSO5000 has a matte screen, not a glossy screen like the R&S. 
Title: Re: Rigol MSO/DS2000A and Rigol MSO/DS4000 look much nicer than Rigol MSO5000
Post by: 2N3055 on June 20, 2020, 08:27:44 pm
....................

Next it will does Tautech's bum look big in a SDS6000 pro suit  |O
Hahaaha.. :-DD LOL
Title: Re: Rigol MSO/DS2000A and Rigol MSO/DS4000 look much nicer than Rigol MSO5000
Post by: tautech on June 21, 2020, 09:59:21 am
Next it will does Tautech's bum look big in a SDS6000 pro suit  |O
Not compared to the size of its display !  :P  8)

(https://www.siglent.com/u_file/product/20_05_11/480-450.png)
Title: Re: Rigol MSO/DS2000A and Rigol MSO/DS4000 look much nicer than Rigol MSO5000
Post by: Sighound36 on June 21, 2020, 10:47:28 am
Not compared to the size of its display !  :P  8)

(https://www.siglent.com/u_file/product/20_05_11/480-450.png)

And there was I figuring you were more of a gimp ball and studded leather cat o' tails sort of a guy  :-X oh well back to the drawing board  ;)
Title: Re: Rigol MSO/DS2000A and Rigol MSO/DS4000 look much nicer than Rigol MSO5000
Post by: macaba on June 21, 2020, 11:13:48 am
My MSO5000 is halfway between matt and gloss. Looking at a window in the screen reflection - it's diffused like matt, but can clearly see the window like gloss. I think it's good.
Title: Re: Rigol MSO/DS2000A and Rigol MSO/DS4000 look much nicer than Rigol MSO5000
Post by: pascal_sweden on June 24, 2020, 06:48:48 pm
Don't we all agree that the Economy version of the Rigol MSO5000 series (MSO5000-E) looks even cheaper?

Rigol MSO5000-E series:
(https://int.rigol.com/Public/Uploads/uploadfile/images/20191105/20191105112652_5dc0ebfce88bc.png)
Title: Re: Rigol MSO/DS2000A and Rigol MSO/DS4000 look much nicer than Rigol MSO5000
Post by: Kean on June 25, 2020, 04:06:55 am
Don't we all agree that the Economy version of the Rigol MSO5000 series (MSO5000-E) looks even cheaper?

But it is cheaper... isn't it?

Apart from having less controls because it is only 2 channels, the only obvious cosmetic difference is the colour of its skin.

Please stop this rubbish!  Stick to technical discussion.
Title: Re: Rigol MSO/DS2000A and Rigol MSO/DS4000 look much nicer than Rigol MSO5000
Post by: 2N3055 on June 25, 2020, 07:35:20 am
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Every scope that has individual controls per channel, in 2 ch version looks weird.
Who cares...
Title: Re: Rigol MSO/DS2000A and Rigol MSO/DS4000 look much nicer than Rigol MSO5000
Post by: tv84 on June 25, 2020, 08:29:11 am
The problems listed in this thread can all be solved with this tool:

https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html (https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html)
Title: Re: Rigol MSO/DS2000A and Rigol MSO/DS4000 look much nicer than Rigol MSO5000
Post by: Sighound36 on June 25, 2020, 09:56:35 am
The problems listed in this thread can all be solved with this tool:

https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html (https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html)

Outstanding reply Tv84 :-+
Title: Re: Rigol MSO/DS2000A and Rigol MSO/DS4000 look much nicer than Rigol MSO5000
Post by: pascal_sweden on June 25, 2020, 10:07:38 am
Excuse me Sir! This forum is a free forum!

Please stop this rubbish!  Stick to technical discussion.