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Re: Rigol, Siglent, Hakko, cannot be exported from the US to LatAm
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2024, 01:55:25 am »
$1399 is the normal price: https://www.logicbus.com/SDS2104X-Plus_p_23915.html

yep, it's at $1756.58 at the Mexico store. Not taking into account shipment + México sales taxes + import taxes + local sales taxes on the shipment service, also no inventory

https://tienda.logicbus.com.mx/SDS2104X-Plus_p_24317.html
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Re: Rigol, Siglent, Hakko, cannot be exported from the US to LatAm
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2024, 03:49:56 am »
$1399 is the normal price: https://www.logicbus.com/SDS2104X-Plus_p_23915.html

yep, it's at $1756.58 at the Mexico store. Not taking into account shipment + México sales taxes + import taxes + local sales taxes on the shipment service, also no inventory

https://tienda.logicbus.com.mx/SDS2104X-Plus_p_24317.html
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Re: Rigol, Siglent, Hakko, cannot be exported from the US to LatAm
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2024, 06:23:13 am »
Will have to reevaluate my options, probably more cost effective to get something from the brands tequipment is allowed to send me.
You say you want an SDS2104X Plus.

This happens to be the most popular upper entry level scope from Siglent.

BK Precision happen to rebadge Siglent oscilloscopes. Not the latest ones, but certainly the SDS2104X Plus – it’s called 2565B there.

Tequipment would ship BK Precision to your country, as you say. Unfortunately I see a price of $2340,- for the 2565B, so buying the original in Mexico might still be the better option…
 
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Re: Rigol, Siglent, Hakko, cannot be exported from the US to LatAm
« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2024, 09:51:10 am »
This isn’t a Latin America problem, it’s one that exists everywhere, because of the territory agreements already described.

Switzerland is right in the middle of Europe, yet some items are very hard to get because of such agreements, which sometimes end up with Switzerland having no official distribution channel, yet distributors in neighboring countries contractually barred from exporting to here. Sometimes it even depends on the product line, with some of a manufacturer’s products being trivial to get while others are nigh on impossible.

Heck, it happens even to USA sometimes.
 

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Re: Rigol, Siglent, Hakko, cannot be exported from the US to LatAm
« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2024, 11:37:18 am »
However nothing does prohibit the individual to source product from wherever they like but when they do have local representation those representatives might be less than impressed when you go to them for aftersales support.
Perhaps. But it's economy and probability. If it'll be more economic to dump the broken unit and to bring the replacement from abroad privately again, then why not. However, it can be not the only consideration.

For instance, the Siglent brand is banned here through regulation. Here is an official registry for the T&M equipment, which is approved for use in the country. It's illegal to import a not listed instruments. Of course, every more less known brand is registered there. Even Rigol, as a favorite pet project of Chinese government, was provided with enough cache to pay all the necessary bribes for whitelisting. But Dingyang Tech took different approach. It partnered with the local distributor who's selling the same products under the distributor's brand, painted differently and at doubled price. That's total rubbish. Although it's not a problem to smuggle a unit or two from abroad, later the owner will have a warranty/service problems and moreover, the instrument can't be used in any legal business.
 

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Re: Rigol, Siglent, Hakko, cannot be exported from the US to LatAm
« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2024, 01:25:53 pm »
However nothing does prohibit the individual to source product from wherever they like but when they do have local representation those representatives might be less than impressed when you go to them for aftersales support.
Perhaps. But it's economy and probability. If it'll be more economic to dump the broken unit and to bring the replacement from abroad privately again, then why not. However, it can be not the only consideration.

For instance, the Siglent brand is banned here through regulation. Here is an official registry for the T&M equipment, which is approved for use in the country. It's illegal to import a not listed instruments. Of course, every more less known brand is registered there. Even Rigol, as a favorite pet project of Chinese government, was provided with enough cache to pay all the necessary bribes for whitelisting. But Dingyang Tech took different approach. It partnered with the local distributor who's selling the same products under the distributor's brand, painted differently and at doubled price. That's total rubbish.
Are you sure your finger pointing shouldn't instead be directed to the owner of the AKIP brand and their decision to partner with Siglent for solitary RU import rights and therefore market for best profitability.

Some Siglent models the west has never seen except in LeCroy colors and at LeCroy pricing.

Also RU has its own technical industry to protect by way of import levies that can also impact savagely on pricing.
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Re: Rigol, Siglent, Hakko, cannot be exported from the US to LatAm
« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2024, 01:32:49 pm »
$1399 is the normal price: https://www.logicbus.com/SDS2104X-Plus_p_23915.html

yep, it's at $1756.58 at the Mexico store. Not taking into account shipment + México sales taxes + import taxes + local sales taxes on the shipment service, also no inventory

https://tienda.logicbus.com.mx/SDS2104X-Plus_p_24317.html

The link I sent is from their "international store." Can you try ordering from that?
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Re: Rigol, Siglent, Hakko, cannot be exported from the US to LatAm
« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2024, 03:48:11 pm »
No vendor can ignore the US market, it's too lucrative.

I found some Chinese radios and computers (two different, unrelated companies) that are not exported outside China.  I sent a couple of emails. They both told me the same thing, China is a big enough market that they don't need to distribute outside their country.

I'm sure this is not an isolated incident. As China's economy grows stronger, I guess this will get worse (for export sales) before it gets better.
I have taken apart more gear than many people. But I have put less gear back together than most people. So there is still room for improvement.
 
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Re: Rigol, Siglent, Hakko, cannot be exported from the US to LatAm
« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2024, 01:27:15 am »
1. See if the item is available through Amazon, it is possible they don't check for restrictions.
2. Try another freight forwarder, some have declarations that they are forwarding , others address may not come up as a freight forward address.
3. There are sometimes US restrictions' on the export of technology but his would not apply here, so it is most likely protection for dealers. At work I buy from large suppliers and ship equipment to various countries where we have business locations and sometimes the orders have to be split because they would point you to a dealer for a specific region.
4. Try Ebay.
5. If you pick the item up in the US it is unlikely that customs would prevent you from carrying it to Costa Rica since this is not a US security issue but a manufacturer imposed restriction.

I import most of my items from the US through various freight forwarders, some sites detect this and block sale but trying a different forwarder sometimes works. I sometimes buy things from China by send it to the US then freight forward as it is much faster than having it sent directly to my country.
 

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Re: Rigol, Siglent, Hakko, cannot be exported from the US to LatAm
« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2024, 07:17:05 pm »
1. See if the item is available through Amazon, it is possible they don't check for restrictions.
They absolutely do.
 

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Re: Rigol, Siglent, Hakko, cannot be exported from the US to LatAm
« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2024, 08:28:25 pm »
1. See if the item is available through Amazon, it is possible they don't check for restrictions.

About this one, AFAIK Siglent store in amazon is managed by Tequipment :C they will definitely check.

I'm taking a look at my options, a friend of a friend that had helped me get Home Depot stuff in the past could help us on this case too. If that does not work I'll try my luck on ebay with lower tier stuff, I was already going overbudget a little bit with the SDS2104X so I'm not really willing to pay what it takes to bring it from Mexico. Will probably go for a sub $1k scope if the "friend-of-a-friend" method doesn't work.

There's for sure ways to circumvent restrictions, but I would prefer if it wasn't this much of a PITA to get the stuff
 

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Re: Rigol, Siglent, Hakko, cannot be exported from the US to LatAm
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2024, 09:26:31 pm »
About this one, AFAIK Siglent store in amazon is managed by Tequipment :C they will definitely check.

Tequipment sells on Amazon, but they're not the only dealer selling on there. Amazon also stocks and sells Siglent gear directly.
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