R&S to launch MXO5

[Stranger_danger]

Buried in their website code is the name of the MXO5 Oscilloscope.  Cats out of the bag, 42 days early.   

https://www.rohde-schwarz.com/us/products/test-and-measurement/oscilloscopes/promotion/next-generation_255909.html

[Stranger_danger]

Specs:
- 4 and 8 channels
- 350, 500 MHz, 1 GHz, 2 GHz
- 12 bits


Pricing:
MXO54 500MHz $4,120
MXO54 1 GHz $9,680
MXO54 2 GHz $12,875
MXO58 350 MHz $9,040
MXO58 500 MHz $16,250
MXO58 1 GHz $25,520
MXO58 2 GHz $30,670
MXO5-k31.03 power analysis $2,470

[tv84]

Bad image.

[Sighound36]

Going after Siglent's new 7000 with that pricing

[gslick]

Specs:
- 4 and 8 channels
- 350, 500 MHz, 1 GHz, 2 GHz
- 12 bits


Pricing:
MXO54 500MHz $4,120
MXO54 1 GHz $9,680
MXO54 2 GHz $12,875
MXO58 350 MHz $9,040
MXO58 500 MHz $16,250
MXO58 1 GHz $25,520
MXO58 2 GHz $30,670
MXO5-k31.03 power analysis $2,470

That starts at less than the least expensive MXO44 200MHz model. Will the MXO5 series be lower end than the MXO4 series?

[Hydron]

Huh, still not really hobbyist pricing but the lowest spec model is maybe edging into enticing-if-hackable territory.

[Stranger_danger]

Specs:
- 4 and 8 channels
- 350, 500 MHz, 1 GHz, 2 GHz
- 12 bits


Pricing:
MXO54 500MHz $4,120
MXO54 1 GHz $9,680
MXO54 2 GHz $12,875
MXO58 350 MHz $9,040
MXO58 500 MHz $16,250
MXO58 1 GHz $25,520
MXO58 2 GHz $30,670
MXO5-k31.03 power analysis $2,470

That starts at less than the least expensive MXO44 200MHz model. Will the MXO5 series be lower end than the MXO4 series?

Found the pricing cached through Newark. Not clear if it's an option on top of base model or total price.  "MXO5-B245.03" was the option found.

[Hydron]

B245 sounds like an option code sadly . Assuming that the 8-channel option is a SW one it would also explain having a 350MHz option on 8-channels only - it's an option to bump channel number up rather than BW, given a base of 350MHz.

[tautech]

Going after Siglent's new 7000 with that pricing

SDS7000A are 2-4 GHz models whereas SDS6000L 2GHz and 8ch is the better fit.

[Martin72]

Pricing:
MXO54 500MHz $4,120

Hmm...That's hard to believe.

[Martin72]

Specs:
- 4 and 8 channels
- 350, 500 MHz, 1 GHz, 2 GHz
- 12 bits


Pricing:
MXO54 500MHz $4,120
MXO54 1 GHz $9,680
MXO54 2 GHz $12,875
MXO58 350 MHz $9,040
MXO58 500 MHz $16,250
MXO58 1 GHz $25,520
MXO58 2 GHz $30,670
MXO5-k31.03 power analysis $2,470

Where do you get this?

[Stranger_danger]

Specs:
- 4 and 8 channels
- 350, 500 MHz, 1 GHz, 2 GHz
- 12 bits


Pricing:
MXO54 500MHz $4,120
MXO54 1 GHz $9,680
MXO54 2 GHz $12,875
MXO58 350 MHz $9,040
MXO58 500 MHz $16,250
MXO58 1 GHz $25,520
MXO58 2 GHz $30,670
MXO5-k31.03 power analysis $2,470

Where do you get this?

It's cached on Google.

[Martin72]

I find nothing..

[2N3055]

Pricing:
MXO54 500MHz $4,120

Hmm...That's hard to believe.

Not if everything is option. 2500 € power analysis. Segmented mode XXXX€ , decoding even basic protocols XXXX€.. etc etc...

Same as RTB2004 basic is not much more expensive than some competition but has nothing on it if you don't buy options.

But as Hydron said, those could actually be upgrade options prices from a basic 350 MHz 4ch scope.

[tv84]

Google cache shows that all of that are upgrade options.

If not, Rigol could suffer a big blow. 

Unless the boot time is not pleasant...


Edit: I also searched the cache and, now, I'm not so sure...  It seems the prices are for the base models:   

MXO5-B245         $4,120.00    Upgrade 500MHz
MXO5-B2410       $9,680.00    Upgrade 1 GHz
MXO5-B2420     $12,875.00    Upgrade 2 GHz

MXO5-B282         $3,890.00   Upgrade 200 MHz
MXO5-B283         $9,040.00   Upgrade 350 MHz
MXO5-B285       $16,250.00   Upgrade 500 MHz
MXO5-B2810     $25,520.00   Upgrade 1 GHz
MXO5-B2820     $30,670.00   Upgrade 2 GHz

MXO5-B110         $3,090.00    Memory upgrade 1Gpts
MXO5-B6             $1,440.00    Waveform generator
MXO5-K31           $2,470.00    Power Analysys
MXO5-K36           $2,470.00    Bode Plot
MXO5-K520         $2,885.00    CAN, CAN-FD, CAN-XL decoder

(from the Newark cached pages, as above)

[Martin72]

Not if everything is option.

Who pays anything for the options...
If that wasn't a misprint and the scope isn't the very worst snot, this could get interesting if a third party throws their hat into the ring of barely affordable 12-bit scopes.

[Stranger_danger]

Google cache shows that all of that are options.

If not, Rigol could suffer a big blow. 

Unless the boot time is not pleasant...


Edit: I also searched the cache and, now, I'm not so sure...  It seems the prices are for the base models:   

MXO5-B245.03        $4,120.00    500MHz
MXO5-B2410.03      $9,680.00    1 GHz
MXO5-B2420.03     $12,875.00   2 GHz

MXO5-B282.03       $3,890.00
MXO5-B283.03       $9,040.00   350 MHz
MXO5-B285.03       $16,250.00  500 MHz
MXO5-B2810.03     $25,520.00  1 GHz
MXO5-B2820.03     $30,670.00  2 GHz

MXO5-B110.03        $3,090.00
MXO5-B6.03            $1,440.00
MXO5-K31.03           $2,470.00
MXO5-K36.03             $2,470.00
MXO5-K520.03          $2,885.00

(from the Newark cached pages, as above)

If I look at how they price the MXO4. There is a base 200MHz 4-channel model. To upgrade from 200MHz to 350MHz is option B243 (Base-200MHz-4channel-350MHz).

To upgrade to a 1 GHz the MXO4 goes MXO4-B2410 (200MHz-4channel-1.0GHz).

So looking at the options you found, most of those are 200MHz, 8 channel or 4 channel, to 350MHz, 500MHz, 1.0 GHz and 2.0 GHz. We're missing the Base model pricing.

Scope total price = Base + Bandwidth

Otherwise Newark lists configured prices and bundles for the MXO4. For instance MXO44-2410 is a MXO4 4 channel with the 200MHz to 1 GHz bandwidth option.  But search for MXO5-2820, all I see cached is the option, not the configured option price.

[Sighound36]

Considering the MX04 has enjoyed upto 48% off RRP in the last tweleve months on certain model configurations. The MX05 is either a 'budget model' or that pricing is like Dave's experinace with pathway software some what screwed 

The 1.5Ghz MX04 here in the UK with discounts can be had for around £18.5K plus vat so pretty sure R&S arn't going to release the next model up for less 

[tv84]

If I look at how they price the MXO4. There is a base 200MHz 4-channel model. To upgrade from 200MHz to 350MHz is option B243 (Base-200MHz-4channel-350MHz).

To upgrade to a 1 GHz the MXO4 goes MXO4-B2410 (200MHz-4channel-1.0GHz).

That logic makes sense but, then, what is the MXO5-B282.03 upgrade (in the list)?

[Someone]

If I look at how they price the MXO4. There is a base 200MHz 4-channel model. To upgrade from 200MHz to 350MHz is option B243 (Base-200MHz-4channel-350MHz).

To upgrade to a 1 GHz the MXO4 goes MXO4-B2410 (200MHz-4channel-1.0GHz).

That logic makes sense but, then, what is the MXO5-B282.03 upgrade (in the list)?

4 to 8 channel soft upgrade?

[Spectral_Duck]

Looks like Newark also accidentally posted early.  Sadly, all the pages now lead to a 404.  I typed the following into google to find it. 

site:"newark.com" mxo5

[pdenisowski]

At least now I can publicly say that the MXO5 supports up to 8 channels

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rohde-%26-schwarz_oscilloscope-evolvedformore-activity-7122854319787274240-Ti98

Only ~5 more days to go!

https://www.rohde-schwarz.com/us/products/test-and-measurement/oscilloscopes/promotion/next-generation_255909.html

[exe]

Is there any 70MHz version with a price tag below 1k to compete with DHO804? I'd buy one 

[Martin72]

Only ~5 more days to go!

I had registered via the company address.
Instead of the advertised benefits such as early news about the scope, I get only promotional garbage....

[jusaca]

500 Mpoints per channel (Opt. upgrade to 1 Gpoints)

Well, that's something I could work with
Not that I could afford such a scope, but...

Source: https://assets.testequity.com/te1/Documents/pdf/rs/RS_Fact_Sheet_MXO5_v1.00_1023.pdf