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R&S to launch MXO5
Martin72:
--- Quote from: tv84 on October 31, 2023, 11:27:23 am ---
--- Quote from: Martin72 on October 30, 2023, 09:42:41 pm ---Theoretically.
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tv84: Stay away from the light!!!
Martin72: Next Xmas, maybe I... ::)
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Starting price MX05: 17000€....
No my friend, that is worlds away from what I can spend, that would be at most something for the company.
The MX04 on the other hand is "significantly cheaper", but that would only come into question if I won the lottery.
Nope, I'll probably stay loyal to Siglent. 8)
pdenisowski:
--- Quote from: 2N3055 on October 31, 2023, 11:51:59 am ---That HiDef mode is equivalent to ERES in LeCroy and Siglent and HiRes by other manufacturers.
R&S, like LeCroy and Siglent, provide pretty fine control of the process, which makes it useful.
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The biggest advantage of HD mode over other methods of improving vertical resolution is that you have explicit control over the bandwidth. We do have a "high resolution" mode on some of our other scopes, but that mode doesn't allow you to specify the bandwidth. I'll admit that I don't know enough technical details about other vendors' implementations to (reliably / credibly) compare and contrast.
--- Quote from: 2N3055 on October 31, 2023, 11:51:59 am ---I think 6bit "enhancement" (12->18bit) is bit of a stretch, but it is useful as a lowpass filter anyways.. ^-^
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Depending on what you're looking at, the improvement in resolution from HD mode can be anywhere between (OMG!) and almost unnoticeable. That said, once you get used to having HD mode as an option, it's really hard to go back: as time goes on I find myself using it more and more often.
(It's also a standard feature, so it doesn't cost extra)
2N3055:
--- Quote from: pdenisowski on October 31, 2023, 01:39:08 pm ---
--- Quote from: 2N3055 on October 31, 2023, 11:51:59 am ---That HiDef mode is equivalent to ERES in LeCroy and Siglent and HiRes by other manufacturers.
R&S, like LeCroy and Siglent, provide pretty fine control of the process, which makes it useful.
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The biggest advantage of HD mode over other methods of improving vertical resolution is that you have explicit control over the bandwidth. We do have a "high resolution" mode on some of our other scopes, but that mode doesn't allow you to specify the bandwidth. I'll admit that I don't know enough technical details about other vendors' implementations to (reliably / credibly) compare and contrast.
--- Quote from: 2N3055 on October 31, 2023, 11:51:59 am ---I think 6bit "enhancement" (12->18bit) is bit of a stretch, but it is useful as a lowpass filter anyways.. ^-^
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Depending on what you're looking at, the improvement in resolution from HD mode can be anywhere between (OMG!) and almost unnoticeable. That said, once you get used to having HD mode as an option, it's really hard to go back: as time goes on I find myself using it more and more often.
(It's also a standard feature, so it doesn't cost extra)
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ERES is pretty much same (as it is implemented in hardware in LeCroy and Siglent, or you have one in Math for postprocessing at will).
I would have to see how it is implemented in MXO5 but ERES in Siglent for instance does not show BW reduction on screen. It is easy to calculate though, but I would still like it to be there in plain sight. I like when scope calculates and plainly shows those things for us, wherever is possible...
Martin72:
--- Quote ---I like when scope calculates and plainly shows those things for us, wherever is possible
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LeCroys MAUI scopes do this(showing bandwith when using Eres)..
Could be something for the (siglent)wish list.
nctnico:
--- Quote from: pdenisowski on October 31, 2023, 01:39:08 pm ---
--- Quote from: 2N3055 on October 31, 2023, 11:51:59 am ---That HiDef mode is equivalent to ERES in LeCroy and Siglent and HiRes by other manufacturers.
R&S, like LeCroy and Siglent, provide pretty fine control of the process, which makes it useful.
--- End quote ---
The biggest advantage of HD mode over other methods of improving vertical resolution is that you have explicit control over the bandwidth. We do have a "high resolution" mode on some of our other scopes, but that mode doesn't allow you to specify the bandwidth. I'll admit that I don't know enough technical details about other vendors' implementations to (reliably / credibly) compare and contrast.
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Aha, so it does allow setting the bandwidth! :-+ IMHO that is a major differentiation from eres / highres modes and makes it much more usefull. It would be nice if the marketing department could come up with a better term than HD mode. Even without giving additional bits, it will be highly useful for sure.
What is the lowest bandwidth you can set for 'HD mode'?
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