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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #275 on: August 29, 2020, 09:01:02 am »
Oh yeah. The little bugger ist busted. What's the name of these fuses? I only have glass type ones, and now need to source those new ones.
There's 10A written on them. Is this a type description, or as i assume the VALUE?

May I ask why it's a bad idea to connect a battery to BLACK/RED? As far as I understood the manual the recommend BLACK/GREEN but don't say it's mandatory.

Hopefully it's only the fuse. Keep my fingers crossed.

Thanks for the fast help and your great modded firmware. Looks excellent!!
 

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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #276 on: August 29, 2020, 09:30:48 am »
What's the name of these fuses?
1808 125V/10A Littelfuse
When you buy a module, they usually provide a spare fuse.

May I ask why it's a bad idea to connect a battery to BLACK/RED?
For the same reason that cars cannot move in the oncoming lane.
Green connector have a relay to protect PSU.
 
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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #277 on: August 29, 2020, 09:40:17 am »
1808 125V/10A Littelfuse
Slow, fast, super fast?

For the same reason that cars cannot move in the oncoming lane.
LOL  ;D
 

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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #278 on: August 29, 2020, 09:51:17 am »
Couldn't find that spare fuse. So i "repaired" the broken fuse with the wire from a 3A glass fuse I safrificed for that test. WORKS PERFECTLY FINE again! Thanks a million! Now I can order proper fuses and replace the Frankenstein-fuse  :o 8)

EDIT: Here's the ones I ordered, just in case someone else looks for a replacement: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/20pcs-lot-1808-SMD-Fuses-Disposable-Fuse-0-5A-1A-2A-3A-4A-5A-6A-7A/32974773787.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.5b094c4dl1CfMq
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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #279 on: August 30, 2020, 08:39:10 pm »
I just ordered the RD6006 panel and large enclosure from Aliexpress.  I can't wait to set it up, this is my first bench top power supply.  If I get enough confidence I will try to make it into a linear power supply.  For now I will find a power source laying around the house.
 

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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #280 on: August 30, 2020, 08:52:18 pm »
Remade my switch...
using ready modules...
1. 12V Power supply datasheet (didn't found on aliexpress)
2. Relay module YYG-2 (12V)
3. Plastic case for relay module
4. 5V DC-DC Converter

All set  :)


12V Power supply


Relay module, case, power supply


Installed and connected


Final view


Easy fit in case


Results
  <- VS ->

P.S. If anyone knows of a good small embeddable power supply please let me know.
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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #281 on: August 31, 2020, 01:59:37 am »
--- RD60062_V1.32.10.bin ---

+ Added option "Screensaver" to decrease brightness (ScrsaverBright) after specified time. (Note: "ScrsaverBright" must be less or equal to "Backlight")
  Press any key (except ON/OFF) will turn on backlight and restart timer.
+ Added option "ScrsaverBright" Screensaver Brightness (0-complete turn off backlight, 1-equal to "Backlight"=0, 2-equal to "Backlight"=1, etc)
+ Added option "ScrsaverActive" Allow activate screensaver if output is in active state.
+ Removed meaningless icons from the caption.
+ [Left/Right] — switches the current layout (without save) (no need press SHIFT anymore)
- Removed Layout 2 (Layout 3 already shows all values).
+ Minor improvements

Updated...
+ Double click on |Dot| activates screensaver.
+ Exit from screensaver by OVP, OCP, OPP, OTP, Battery detect, Battery disconnect.

« Last Edit: August 31, 2020, 04:09:39 am by UniSoft »
 
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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #282 on: September 02, 2020, 05:40:13 pm »
@unisoft: The firmware is getting better and better. Thanks!
May I ask for a feature? It's just for better looks, but I'd like to see other colors for Voltage, Current etc ... Could you make those user selectable?
Thanks
 

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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #283 on: September 03, 2020, 10:25:24 am »
Has anyone used any other off-the-shelf power supply for the RD6012 please? Preferably something with integrated temperature control for the fan, as the S-800-65V 11.4A is noisy according to user reports around  :)
 

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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #284 on: September 03, 2020, 11:02:24 am »
Has anyone used any other off-the-shelf power supply for the RD6012 please? Preferably something with integrated temperature control for the fan, as the S-800-65V 11.4A is noisy according to user reports around  :)
NVVV S-800-70 (800W / 70V = ~11.4A)
yes this PSU is extra noisy, the fan working non stop, loud like a vacuum cleaner...

I ordered another one NVVV S-800-65 (800W / 65V = 12.3A), and today got the package, looks OK.
The fan is not working at all, if there is no load, and it really depends from temperature.

« Last Edit: September 03, 2020, 11:42:09 am by UniSoft »
 

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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #285 on: September 03, 2020, 11:38:10 am »
Now this looks like an improvement  :)
 

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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #286 on: September 03, 2020, 01:38:48 pm »
NVVV S-800-70 (800W / 70V = ~11.4A)
I ordered another one NVVV S-800-65 (800W / 65V = 12.3A), and today got the package, looks OK.
The fan is not working at all, if there is no load, and it really depends from temperature.

Fan issue aside, I’m wondering if it the 11.4A vs 12.3A difference really matters, since the total power is the same anyways (800W) and the buck converter would draw a smaller current at a higher input voltage (for a given output).

Also, I believe these supplies have adjustable output (+/- 5% or so). Would be a good idea to set the output voltage at its highest possible value, to keep the maximum current at a lower value?

The red NVVV logo trying to mimic the red MW logo of Mean Well doesn’t inspire much confidence....
 

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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #287 on: September 03, 2020, 02:43:02 pm »
800W SMPS without PFC?  :o
 

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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #288 on: September 03, 2020, 05:33:43 pm »
I was hoping to find a Mean Well equivalent if the price difference wasn't too high. Right now I am on the fence about the RD2016. Maybe I will look at something else for my first bench power supply.
 

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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #289 on: September 04, 2020, 03:48:21 pm »
RD6018 come out today.

60V x 18A = 1080W Max


 

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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #290 on: September 04, 2020, 03:49:46 pm »
@unisoft: Does your new power supply also needs to be loaded with a power resistor to prevent this high frequency noise, like the NVVV S-800-70 model?
 

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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #291 on: September 07, 2020, 09:21:15 pm »
About the fan noise... the NVVV S-800-70 consumes 12W at idle. I've attached one of these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WLTR1R4

Even at a setpoint of 40C the fan turns on for some minutes every 40 minutes or so. Dissipating 12W seems to be impossible  in a box with with so much air padding.

@Unisoft. I'm running your firmware on RD6012, it is awesome, thank you. Are you releasing new builds for that hardware? I'm still using the last (and only?) BETA release posted here.
I would love to try the mod to power down PSU  to real quiescent values.
I think that other people pointed similar opinion... the original color coding is confusing. Can we have Amps, Watt and Volts with a consistent color scheme in all the interface? V is pink in the readout, but yellow in the setpoint, but blue for OVP, etc,etc. In fact, I don't think I need colors, just the positions in the screen have meaning, but if colours are used I think we can try to keep user interface calm, like any other "respected" hardware device manufacturer does.

Can you release the UI emulator? that way people can research and help you with alternatives.

 

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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #292 on: September 08, 2020, 06:39:09 pm »
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--- RD60062_V1.32.11.bin ---

+ When edit "ScrsaverBright" or "Power LED" now you can see the real effect...
+ Added option "Comm Buzzer" make a sound when the software writes new parameter(s).
+ Option "Mem Hint" now can select the time how long show the message (2, 3, 5 sec)
+ Added option "ShiftMemTable" Press SHIFT to display the table with settings for all memory slots.
+ Added new menu group "- Colors -", now you can choose what color (one of 15) to use for the next parameters:
  Voltage, Current, Power, Input, V-Set, I-Set, OVP, OCP, OPP, Ah, Wh, Temp, BattVoltage, BattInfo (Layout 2).
  Option "Custom Color" allow to use selected colors (using this option you can enable/disable custom colors in bulk).
  Option "Test" is just temporary option and will be removed in next release,
  can be used to see any color and its hex value.
  List of colors need be adjusted, if you have any ideas just let me know (tell me hex values).
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// Here is the current list of colors.
const uint16_t g_colors[16] = {
      0,            // 0 - Default
      C_RED,        // 1  = 0xF800
      C_GREEN,      // 2  = 0x07E0
      C_BLUE,       // 3  = 0x001F
      C_WHITE,      // 4  = 0xFFFF
      C_YELLOW,     // 5  = 0xFFE0
      C_MAGENTA,    // 6  = 0xF81F
      C_CYAN,       // 7  = 0x07FF
      //
      C_LIGHT_BLUE, // 8  = 0x01CF
      C_GRAY,       // 9  = 0x8410
      C_BROWN,      // 10 = 0xA145
      C_ORANGE,     // 11 = 0xFD20
      C_OLIVE,      // 12 = 0x8400
      C_TEAL,       // 13 = 0x0410
      C_PINK,       // 14 = 0xFDF9
      C_MAROON      // 15 = 0x8000
    };

Updated...
Minor improvements...
Fixed small bug with select color for Power and Input
Improved drawing of SHIFT table.
Changed behavior of ENTER in menu, now it works as a first click on encoder (exit to the root of menu)
« Last Edit: September 09, 2020, 05:50:12 am by UniSoft »
 
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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #293 on: September 09, 2020, 03:04:19 am »
@UniSoft
Yeah! Color problem solved. Love the custom Layout 1 too.

I've flashed the RD6006 in my 6012 unit hoping that the firmware will auto detect hardware. Seems it isn't the case. My 6012 is capped to 6.1 Amps. May I suggest a feature to make the device (6006, 6012 or 6018) be set dynamically or at flash time?
 
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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #294 on: September 11, 2020, 12:37:02 am »
--- RD60121_V1.31.3.bin ---
Firmware for RD6012...


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--- RD60121_V1.31.3.bin ---

* Bug fixes
+ Minor improvements
+ Option "Save Mult." to save current multiplier (for current session only, reset after restart)
* Increased minimum battery voltage from 300mV to 500mV (Due to some instability)
+ Added option "Power State" (Power On, Power Off, LastState). Sets the state after power on (without a battery, LastState will not remember the last state).
+ Added option "Power Switch" to turn On/Off the primary PSU. (5V standby power supply required). (Note: Adds a 3 second power-on delay).
  The control output is routed to the PA14 port (pin 4 of the J2 connector). High level - turn on, floating or low level - turn off.
  Note: the maximum load on the port is 20mA !!! (it is better to use an optocoupler).
+ Added option "AutoPowerOff" to automatically turn off after a specified time if the output is disabled.
+ Added option Home:"Status Info" allows you to choose which parameter to display in the status bar (if you need something else, let me know).
+ Added option Home:"Mem Hint" If enabled, then pressing any number key will display a hint with the current settings in the corresponding memory cell for 1 sec,
   a second click during this time will apply these settings.
+ added new parameter "7-Seg v2" to option "Digits Style", where "input", "vset", etc. will also be 7-segment.
+ Added display of the system temperature to the caption.
+ Added option "Screensaver" to decrease brightness (ScrsaverBright) after specified time. (Note: "ScrsaverBright" must be less or equal to "Backlight")
  Press any key (except ON/OFF) will turn on backlight and restart timer.
+ Added option "ScrsaverBright" Screensaver Brightness (0-complete turn off backlight, 1-equal to "Backlight"=0, 2-equal to "Backlight"=1, etc)
+ Added option "ScrsaverActive" Allow activate screensaver if output is in active state.
+ Removed meaningless icons from the caption.
+ [Left/Right] — switches the current layout (without save) (no need press SHIFT anymore)
- Removed Layout 2 (Layout 3 already shows all values).
+ When edit "ScrsaverBright" or "Power LED" now you can see the real effect...
+ Added option "Comm Buzzer" make a sound when the software writes new parameter(s).
+ Option "Mem Hint" now can select the time how long show the message (2, 3, 5 sec)
+ Added option "ShiftMemTable" Press SHIFT to display the table with settings for all memory slots.
+ Added new menu group "- Colors -", now you can choose what color (one of 15) to use for the next parameters:
  Voltage, Current, Power, Input, V-Set, I-Set, OVP, OCP, OPP, Ah, Wh, Temp, BattVoltage, BattInfo (Layout 2).
  Option "Custom Color" allow to use selected colors (using this option you can enable/disable custom colors in bulk).
  Option "Test" is just temporary option and will be removed in next release,
  can be used to see any color and its hex value.
  List of colors need be aвjusted, if you have any ideas just let me know (tell me hex values).
  Here is the current list of colors:
    const uint16_t g_colors[16] = {
      0,            // 0 - Default
      C_RED,        // 1  = 0xF800
      C_GREEN,      // 2  = 0x07E0
      C_BLUE,       // 3  = 0x001F
      C_WHITE,      // 4  = 0xFFFF
      C_YELLOW,     // 5  = 0xFFE0
      C_MAGENTA,    // 6  = 0xF81F
      C_CYAN,       // 7  = 0x07FF
      //
      C_LIGHT_BLUE, // 8  = 0x01CF
      C_GRAY,       // 9  = 0x8410
      C_BROWN,      // 10 = 0xA145
      C_ORANGE,     // 11 = 0xFD20
      C_OLIVE,      // 12 = 0x8400
      C_TEAL,       // 13 = 0x0410
      C_PINK,       // 14 = 0xFDF9
      C_MAROON      // 15 = 0x8000
    };
 
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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #295 on: September 11, 2020, 10:03:53 am »
RD6012 with AC switch...  :)


I used this small power supply: MW-10-12 (fake mean well ;) )
Not bad, absolutely quiet, does not heat up at all, no high-frequency noise. There is a fuse.

 
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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #296 on: September 11, 2020, 10:11:42 am »
@unisoft: Does your new power supply also needs to be loaded with a power resistor to prevent this high frequency noise, like the NVVV S-800-70 model?
Yes, need  :(
 

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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #297 on: September 11, 2020, 10:13:43 am »
Unisoft. Great work on the latest update! Thanks for the MEM menu features - Your a champion :)
 

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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #298 on: September 11, 2020, 11:30:19 am »
@UniSoft Thank you for your great work.

My thoughts:
Above 48V the state changes for CC even with no load connected.
You have the option to choose what to show in layout 1. If it was possible to choose more information?
The shift table could be a little bigger (maybe using the space on the bottom bar?)
It is possible to reduce the buzzer volume?
The M0 (default when power on) don't use the values saved, it uses the last values
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Re: RuiDeng Riden RD6006 DC power supply
« Reply #299 on: September 11, 2020, 02:40:05 pm »
Above 48V the state changes for CC even with no load connected.
Confirm... there is a bug. It depends from input voltage, when voltage set over 90% from input.
will be fixed.

You have the option to choose what to show in layout 1. If it was possible to choose more information?
sure possible.
What do you want to see there? Note It can't fit more than 6 lines.

The shift table could be a little bigger (maybe using the space on the bottom bar?)
Could be. But what for? Font (8x16) anyway will not be bigger.

It is possible to reduce the buzzer volume?
Definitely no...
It is a standalone buzzer, and control pin doesn't have PWM output.

The M0 (default when power on) don't use the values saved, it uses the last values
I have previously asked a question about the behavior of M0.
I asked what is better, to restore the last selected/active memory cell after restarting the power supply,
or when choosing a memory cell, simply copy its values to M0. People preferred copying.
Therefore, after restart the power supply, memory cell M0 will be selected and therefore the last settings will be used.
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If anyone has better ideas, please describe them in more detail.
If people accept and support, then I will try to implement them, if possible.
This also applies to all other options and functions.
 


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