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Domitronic:

--- Quote from: nctnico on November 21, 2022, 04:11:29 pm ---
At the current Salea prices levels it makes more sense to buy an oscilloscope with digital inputs (or upgrade your existing DSO if possible).


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If a Logic 4 would have been enough he doesn't even need the digital channels. Standard 4 channel scope should be enough.

But i can understand why someone would prefer a Saleae. For decoding i also prefer my Logic Pro 8 because its much more convenient than decoding on a small scope display. And its silent.

markone:

--- Quote from: Domitronic on November 21, 2022, 05:10:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on November 21, 2022, 04:11:29 pm ---
At the current Salea prices levels it makes more sense to buy an oscilloscope with digital inputs (or upgrade your existing DSO if possible).


--- End quote ---

If a Logic 4 would have been enough he doesn't even need the digital channels. Standard 4 channel scope should be enough.

But i can understand why someone would prefer a Saleae. For decoding i also prefer my Logic Pro 8 because its much more convenient than decoding on a small scope display. And its silent.

--- End quote ---

With a standard scope you cannot do a lot of things that you do with a digital LA / sniffer, first to log long communication period.

Anyway, as i previously told here, an old Logic 4 would have been more than enough.

ulix:

--- Quote from: markone on November 21, 2022, 05:14:38 pm ---
--- Quote from: Domitronic on November 21, 2022, 05:10:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on November 21, 2022, 04:11:29 pm ---
At the current Salea prices levels it makes more sense to buy an oscilloscope with digital inputs (or upgrade your existing DSO if possible).


--- End quote ---

If a Logic 4 would have been enough he doesn't even need the digital channels. Standard 4 channel scope should be enough.

But i can understand why someone would prefer a Saleae. For decoding i also prefer my Logic Pro 8 because its much more convenient than decoding on a small scope display. And its silent.

--- End quote ---

With a standard scope you cannot do a lot of things that you do with a digital LA / sniffer, first to log long communication period.

Anyway, as i previously told here, an old Logic 4 would have been more than enough.

--- End quote ---

How about this (if you want I could send it from the UK)?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324350120733?hash=item4b84c6131d:g:jgEAAOSwUWpa3Tom

Swake:
Dear markone,
You say it is for a professional project. If that is really the case then its cost should be calculated in your sales price and is not an issue. Even if it was not included, the difference is only 350€ or so, shouldn't be something to spend (I should say waste) a couple hours onto. For DIY it is a totally different situation of course.

Please reconsider the proposal from Domitronic. I'm not entirely certain to understand what exactly you want to trigger on but a cheap Rigol DS1054Z can certainly do the trick for 350€ ExVAT on Eleshop. It comes with free advanced triggering and protocol decoding (RS232, I2C, SPI). With this you are 'clean' out of the box. Would you elect to go dirty and patch it then it is capable of twice the speed and some other goodies.

Slightly upper the ladder there is the 800€ MSO5074 on sale coming with the protocol analysis options and 2 arbitrary waveform generators and the power analysis option. This is all clean too. The dirty road goes to 350MHz. Best investment you would ever do to boost your analysis capabilities.

markone:

--- Quote from: Swake on November 21, 2022, 07:01:13 pm ---Dear markone,
You say it is for a professional project. If that is really the case then its cost should be calculated in your sales price and is not an issue. Even if it was not included, the difference is only 350€ or so, shouldn't be something to spend (I should say waste) a couple hours onto. For DIY it is a totally different situation of course.

Please reconsider the proposal from Domitronic. I'm not entirely certain to understand what exactly you want to trigger on but a cheap Rigol DS1054Z can certainly do the trick for 350€ ExVAT on Eleshop. It comes with free advanced triggering and protocol decoding (RS232, I2C, SPI). With this you are 'clean' out of the box. Would you elect to go dirty and patch it then it is capable of twice the speed and some other goodies.

Slightly upper the ladder there is the 800€ MSO5074 on sale coming with the protocol analysis options and 2 arbitrary waveform generators and the power analysis option. This is all clean too. The dirty road goes to 350MHz. Best investment you would ever do to boost your analysis capabilities.

--- End quote ---


--- Quote from: Swake on November 21, 2022, 07:01:13 pm ---Dear markone,
You say it is for a professional project. If that is really the case then its cost should be calculated in your sales price and is not an issue. Even if it was not included, the difference is only 350€ or so, shouldn't be something to spend (I should say waste) a couple hours onto. For DIY it is a totally different situation of course.

Please reconsider the proposal from Domitronic. I'm not entirely certain to understand what exactly you want to trigger on but a cheap Rigol DS1054Z can certainly do the trick for 350€ ExVAT on Eleshop. It comes with free advanced triggering and protocol decoding (RS232, I2C, SPI). With this you are 'clean' out of the box. Would you elect to go dirty and patch it then it is capable of twice the speed and some other goodies.

Slightly upper the ladder there is the 800€ MSO5074 on sale coming with the protocol analysis options and 2 arbitrary waveform generators and the power analysis option. This is all clean too. The dirty road goes to 350MHz. Best investment you would ever do to boost your analysis capabilities.

--- End quote ---

Dear Swake, please trust me, i know my job, i started to play with serial lines during the cold war, in the eighties, none of above mentioned instruments, that i regularly use, fits the purpose, nor more expensive ones.

I use DSO with serial decodind when i need to verify/measure time relation between serial messages with other digital/analog signals or when i "tag" analog signals with a  high speed uart byte.

But when it comes to debug systems that make use of one or several serial line with custom protocols DSO becomes useless, the minimal requirement is, at very least, to trigger on specific byte sequence, maybe on different serial lines at very different baud rate.

Here Logic does a great job ...

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