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Fungus:

--- Quote from: alm on November 21, 2022, 08:25:34 pm ---Have you taken a good look at the Digilent Digital Discovery yet? I think it supports protocol triggering,

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It has serial triggering and a special protocol spying mode.

Everything is scriptable. You can write scripts and make it send a reply when it sees the trigger data.

I think you should be able get it to pretend to transmit data and simultaneously spy on it in the demo mode (with no hardware).
egonotto:
Hello,

@markone:

Is a test possible?

If you can provide a sample signal for an arbitrary waveform generator and indicate what settings should be made and what should be triggered on, then someone can check if a particular device meets your requirement.

Best regards
egonotto
markone:

--- Quote from: alm on November 21, 2022, 08:25:34 pm ---
--- Quote from: markone on November 21, 2022, 07:58:49 pm ---Just to clarify, i'm able to afford much more expensive devices, if needed and justified, but this is not the case for the new Saleae product line, i rather would prefer to give my money to other companies with a different business spirit.

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It seems a straight-forward business decision: either the Saleae unit provides enough value to be worth its price, another competing unit offers more value, or none of the solutions are providing enough return on investment. I don't see a problem with business spirit if it's apparently the only device in its price class that offers the feature that's important to you. Clearly they were charging too little before, though keep in mind the protocol triggering feature was added later, so early on their analyzers didn't provide the same value.

If you look at TotalPhase, who is operating in the same market segment, then they arguably offer even less value for money, and I imagine their low-end devices aren't much more than a MCU and some software. But given they are around for well over a decade, clearly people pay what they ask for a professional tool rather than a development board and a firmware/software project.

Have you taken a good look at the Digilent Digital Discovery yet? I think it supports protocol triggering, but I don't know how it compares to Saleae. Though the plastic case doesn't look quite as professional as the Saleae, so clearly the Saleae is worth more ;). You can sometimes find the Digital Discovery relatively cheap on eBay if you're lucky.

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The value is 99% in their software application, all the job is done on the PC, especially with simple FX2 LA, it would make sense to sell also stand alone SW licenses, someone else already did it for clones.

It happens that i know TotalPhase because about ten years ago i developed a data sniffer using their "Beagle I2C/SPI Protocol Analyzer" device, they provide  driver support and several APIs, also for Labview, that was the language used for the occasion (actually i'm also a Labview developer).

Their product catalog is way more articulated and for sure they spend much more time maintaining software libraries support for all SKUs, i would say there is a lot more manpower behind the facade.

I still have to take a look to Digital Discovery and i'm quite curious, i just saw that Amazon sells it around 250 Euro, it could be a reasonable price if the application is up the expectations.
markone:

--- Quote from: ulix on November 21, 2022, 08:15:01 pm ----snip

And yes, I do feel you - the prices keeps me from buying one. Their product and software are great, and easy to use that what makes it attractive in my eyes.

Have you tried the Picoscope 2000 MSO series?

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I have zero experience with their products, do you know if they offers similar functionality ?
markone:

--- Quote from: DavidAlfa on November 21, 2022, 08:30:01 pm ---
Well,it's the "normal" 24MHz 8-ch analyzer you find for $6.
I thought it was a better one, but that's Fluke pricing for peanuts.
This model was launched 13 years ago for $149... Asking for $270, what the...?



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Exactly what i fought  ;)
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