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SALEAE prices ...
wasedadoc:
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--- Quote from: bdunham7 on November 22, 2022, 04:00:11 am ---https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/fssaleae-logic-16-gen-1/?topicseen
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Unknown poster's nationality ... :D
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When someone posts a dollar price without specifying which country's dollar it is a fairly safe assumption that the poster in in that big country where parochial minds are more common than elsewhere. :)
alm:
--- Quote from: markone on November 22, 2022, 08:14:12 pm ---I do not agree, the old application offered a lot less and the cost of the devices that they were selling over one hundred dollars was a fraction of that, with the "old" component cost i see a decent margin.
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If you think the cost of a hardware + software product should just be function of the BOM cost, then I have a bridge to sell to you. The price of the bridge will obviously be purely based on the price of concrete and steel.
--- Quote from: markone on November 22, 2022, 08:14:12 pm ---Said that, if you have a catalog of devices starting from 100 USD and suddenly you step 5X, well, you cannot expect to maintain the previous customer base.
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Well, then they must have found a new customer base or they would have gone bankrupt by now. I don't see how this concerns you, though, unless your concern is if the company is going to go bankrupt. Either $500 solves a problem for you that's worth at least $500 to solve it over the time you plan to use their device, it does not solve a problem for you, or it does solve a problem but this is not worth $500 to you, for example because you have a cheaper solution or maybe the problem isn't that important to solve. Dreaming about how it would have been better if you bought their product years ago isn't going to help your business.
--- Quote from: markone on November 22, 2022, 08:14:12 pm ---For instance, take the Logic 8, 8bits @ 100MS/s on USB 2.0 interface plus gimmick analog section : 500 USD ... come on.
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I suggest to buy a competing device then, if you think $500 is so excessive for the value they offer. But somehow you seem to spend more energy complaining about Saleae's prices than trying demos of competing products like Digilent Waveforms (software for the Digital Discovery).
DavidAlfa:
Probably coming from a country that made this:
Don't take those 100MSPS that easily, it heavily depends on the number of channels:
1-3 100MSps
4-6 50MSps
7 40MSps
8 25MSps
The Logic 8 pro is way faster:
1-6 500MSps
7-8 250MSps
And the Logic 16 Gen 1 does:
1-8 25MSps
9-16 16MSps
thm_w:
dslogic should be able to trigger on byte sequence
https://www.dreamsourcelab.com/product/dslogic-series/
https://www.dreamsourcelab.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/protocol-trig-en.png
markone:
--- Quote from: alm on November 22, 2022, 09:53:37 pm ---If you think the cost of a hardware + software product should just be function of the BOM cost, then I have a bridge to sell to you. The price of the bridge will obviously be purely based on the price of concrete and steel.
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Not an expert but i guess that the balance between manpower / material cost for a bridge is quite far from a small USB dongle and a single SW application under development for years, as i already told if the same scheme were applied to all electronic instruments they would cost 5 times as much than we pay right now.
Do you think that a single Logic SW license is worth, let's say, 300-400 USD ?
If so, other application software that we pay hundreds should cost millions.
Version 1.x was nothing special, now is starting to be something more productive thanks also to the costless contribution of the customer community.
--- Quote from: alm on November 22, 2022, 09:53:37 pm ---I suggest to buy a competing device then, if you think $500 is so excessive for the value they offer.
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I'm in good company about this feeling.
--- Quote from: alm on November 22, 2022, 09:53:37 pm --- But somehow you seem to spend more energy complaining about Saleae's prices than trying demos of competing products like Digilent Waveforms (software for the Digital Discovery).
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Yes, there is some energy loss replying to whom is trying to justify those "reap off" prices, for the rest i got some useful hints that i'm investigating in my spare time and yes, Digital Discovery is on top of the list, from what I've seen so far it seems to be worth every penny it costs (about 250 euro from Amazon in EU) for those has some time to spend around it.
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