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markone:

--- Quote from: DavidAlfa on November 23, 2022, 04:30:20 am ---You can buy the Chinesium basic version ($80) and upgrade it to Plus by replacing the SDRAM ($2) and modifying the USB ID in the eeprom.
More here.
Though for professional use, it's just $149, I wouldn't bother.
Offers a lot more for 1/3 of the Saleae Logic 8 price.
Software is OpenSource, I wonder why it's not been modified yet to work with the cheap Saleae clones.

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I totally agree, the only annoyance is that our custom service together courier's custom office enjoy charging as much as they can, so a shipping with an invoice of  150 USD cost become easily 230 adding VAT (22%), import fee (10%) and fixed import fee, normally not less than 30-50 euros.

If the seller tricks the invoice is even worst, because when custom office see doubtful numbers then ask for payment proof and then slap your face with a greater  import fee and longer delivery time.

This is exactly what happens, for sure, if you import something from abroad using an express courier, things goes in a different way if you make use of a registered postal service, but it takes ages, this is the reason why i stopped to import directly thing from USA and China, apart small things from ebay / aliexpress with postal service (delivery time 30-60 days...).

So usually it is preferable to pay more in first place with an EU reseller and get some support if shit happens, but it seems that DreamSourceLab does not have one  for Europe.

In the mean time i downloaded DSview for windows but advanced triggering menu does not work in demo mode, the program says it requires Dslogic Hardware support, the menu itself is grayed out and serial trigger options are not visible.

DavidAlfa:
There must be some european distributors.
Found one here:
https://multi-com.eu/,details,id_pr,22645,key,dslogic-plus-usb-based-logic-analyzer.html

If imports are really causing so much trouble, the get the basic and upgrade it.
Not sure in Italy, in Spain we pay 21% VAT for everything, then an additional ~30€ fee for >150€ imports.
Edit: Italy is pretty much the same:

--- Quote ---22% di IVA.
Oneri e spese di sdoganamento:
- 2€, se il valore della merce è sotto i 22 euro;
- 5€, se il valore dell’oggetto è tra 22,01 – 1000 euro;
- 15€, per merci con valore superiore ai 1000 euro

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However the bas**ds include the shipping costs, so you're screwed up easily.
Perhabs you could ask them to make different invoices, so you pay for the product in one and the shipping in the other.
If you get asked, show the PayPal invoice: "product: 149.99".

Anyways, even 200-250€ is still much better deal than the $500 Saleae basic.

markone:

--- Quote from: DavidAlfa on November 23, 2022, 10:25:00 am ---There must be some european distributors.
Found one here:
https://multi-com.eu/,details,id_pr,22645,key,dslogic-plus-usb-based-logic-analyzer.html

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Great, thank you, i will look further later.

About import cost, i dropped the ball many years ago because the theory is never applied, especially with UPS, FEDEX, DHL, a starting price of 100, shipping included, in practice is never less than 150 and could become easily 170 because they can add additional charges and you can do nothing.

As i told, the only alternative is to order with, at least, registered postal service but timing and reliability are totally different and in any case if you get a faulty device your are screwed.

voltsandjolts:

--- Quote from: markone on November 23, 2022, 01:07:15 am ---As far as i understood their application started as a fork of Sigrok Pulseview but at a some point they started to crash with the community.

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DSLogic guys are a bunch of thieving knobs who used a Kickstarter and the open source vibe for their own commercial benefit, without actually being open.

When they started up, they stole the open source GPL licensed PulseView GUI from the sigrok project. Made their own changes to it as needed for their analyser and declined to openly publish their source code as required by the license. They made some token gesture to publish on github but AFAIK there were significant disparities between that repo and their shipped binary. The github repo still exists but I would still be extremely skeptical that it reflects the current binary. The original PulseView developer discusses this situation here.

markone:

--- Quote from: voltsandjolts on November 23, 2022, 12:19:43 pm ---
--- Quote from: markone on November 23, 2022, 01:07:15 am ---As far as i understood their application started as a fork of Sigrok Pulseview but at a some point they started to crash with the community.

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DSLogic guys are a bunch of thieving knobs who used a Kickstarter and the open source vibe for their own commercial benefit, without actually being open.

When they started up, they stole the open source GPL licensed PulseView GUI from the sigrok project. Made their own changes to it as needed for their analyser and declined to openly publish their source code as required by the license. They made some token gesture to publish on github but AFAIK there were significant disparities between that repo and their shipped binary. The github repo still exists but I would still be extremely skeptical that it reflects the current binary. The original PulseView developer discusses this situation here.

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Not the first time that i ear something like that, are they based in China ?

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