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markone:

--- Quote from: DavidAlfa on November 23, 2022, 10:25:00 am ---There must be some european distributors.
Found one here:
https://multi-com.eu/,details,id_pr,22645,key,dslogic-plus-usb-based-logic-analyzer.html

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Just looked at their webshop, finalized price with VAT and TNT shipping is around 210 Euro, i would say it's doable, it remain to be seen if it actually works as expected (trigger on byte sequence out of serial decoder).
DavidAlfa:
You'd be surprised about how many devices use GPL code while not compiling the license terms.
Just the starting: Almost anything connected to the internet.
The guys at Dreamlab simply forgot to delete some references to sigrok, otherwise it would have been extremely hard to demonstrate it.
Wouldn't call it evil, pretty much the standard nowadays, every big company earns millions using gpl code and doesn't donate s** to their creators, showing absolute lack of gratitute.
voltsandjolts:

--- Quote from: DavidAlfa on November 23, 2022, 01:02:42 pm ---You'd be surprised about how many devices use GPL code while not compiling the license terms.
Just the starting: Almost anything connected to the internet.
The guys at Dreamlab simply forgot to delete some references to sigrok, otherwise it would have been extremely hard to demonstrate it.
Wouldn't call it evil, pretty much the standard nowadays, every big company earns millions using gpl code and doesn't donate s** to their creators, showing absolute lack of gratitute.

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This is a very inept response. Many people ignore copyright law but that doesn't make it acceptable. Also, people who use code in accordance with the license may not be obligated to pay anything - as per most open source licenses. This was the choice of the code author.
markone:

--- Quote from: voltsandjolts on November 23, 2022, 01:11:51 pm ---
--- Quote from: DavidAlfa on November 23, 2022, 01:02:42 pm ---You'd be surprised about how many devices use GPL code while not compiling the license terms.
Just the starting: Almost anything connected to the internet.
The guys at Dreamlab simply forgot to delete some references to sigrok, otherwise it would have been extremely hard to demonstrate it.
Wouldn't call it evil, pretty much the standard nowadays, every big company earns millions using gpl code and doesn't donate s** to their creators, showing absolute lack of gratitute.

--- End quote ---

This is a very inept response. Many people ignore copyright law but that doesn't make it acceptable. Also, people who use code in accordance with the license may not be obligated to pay anything - as per most open source licenses. This was the choice of the code author.

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Yep, you are right in principle but i can confirm what DavidAlfa wisely said, there is a huge number of commercial devices that do make use of GPL cod buried inside their binaries, i can assure you that there are some "notorious" brand among their producers.

If you look at what China did in the last decades see a countless number of (actual) patent infringements, so try to figure out what they think about GPL code  ;)   
DavidAlfa:
Inept? I'm not defending them at all, I'm just saying, there's a 99.9% probability the router you're using to surf this site right now is using some sort of GPL, or the LTE antena, or any network node in-between, and for sure lots are violating the GPL.
So it's not " thieves at Dreamlab", like they were the most evils psychopaths in the world, it's almost everyone out there doing the same thing.
But they did the correct at the end, lots of companies just ignore these things.
Several people compiled the program and apparently it's the same thing, also their repo is pretty active.
A lot of companies also do some dirty tricks, like releasing the code only for the initial version (Bugged as hell), then the program evolves: 1.01, 1.02... but these changes are never published.

Never fully undertsood GPL, the ideology of free sharing is nice, but also like shooting yourself at the same time, giving away all your work for free, then let others make millions with it.

From my point of view, a much better aproach is Unreal Engine terms: After it generated $1 million USD in gross revenue, start paying 5% of your income.
So, you can use it for free for non-comercial purposes or low-revenue projects.

Of course, I'm not saying to pay 5% to every GPL code you use, but man, if you're drowning in money, show some gratitude!

Do you remember this?
https://www.businessinsider.com/developer-sabotages-open-source-github-code-libraries-protest-corporations-2022-1

Github blocked the creator from accessing his own repo. What??
It's MY code. If you don't like it, block the repo from the rest of the world, but you don't have any right to remove my access to it.
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