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Offline n3mmr

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #100 on: June 11, 2019, 10:36:35 am »

Hi Plurn... I'd like to here of your 6.1.33 workaround to the shellcmd issue.....
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details supplied via personal message.

Can I also partake of your way to achieve password free telnet access in release 33?
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #101 on: June 11, 2019, 05:21:17 pm »
Can I also partake of your way to achieve password free telnet access in release 33?

details supplied via personal message.

For anyone else that wants this, I suggest request it here like n3mmr has done and anyone who has been given the details can send the details to the person requesting via personal message. Then put a note in this thread saying it has been supplied.

Just in case I am not around to provide the info.

That is just a suggestion - you can do as you please of course.
 
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #102 on: June 11, 2019, 06:16:07 pm »
@plurn | n3mmr:
Mind to send me a PM?
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #103 on: June 11, 2019, 06:47:15 pm »
@anyone who who has the PM or wrote the original - can you pm timgiles :-) thank you in advance
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #104 on: June 11, 2019, 07:07:34 pm »
Can someone PM Plurn workaround

Thanks In Advanced
Mike
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #105 on: June 11, 2019, 09:44:31 pm »
Run the update (one time only) and do:

http://<scope_IP>/web_img/startTelnet9999.php

The rest is self-explanatory.

Made by plurn.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2019, 05:09:23 pm by tv84 »
 
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #106 on: June 12, 2019, 05:20:36 am »
Plurn, I would appreciate a copy of your work around as well please.
Walter Townsend, TTDr
 
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #107 on: June 12, 2019, 05:32:51 am »
Plurn can you send me a copy ?

Thanks
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #108 on: June 12, 2019, 05:51:30 am »
@ sundance timgiles MikeLud starlight_tools tek2232

details will be supplied via personal message in the next few minutes.
 
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #109 on: June 12, 2019, 08:57:39 pm »
Hi,
Can I also get a pm of your way to achieve password free telnet access in release 33?
Thanks in advance
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #110 on: June 12, 2019, 09:56:11 pm »
toodle PM sent
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #111 on: June 13, 2019, 08:03:57 am »
Likewise I would appreciate a copy of the workaround info if you wouldn't mind.
Thanks in advance.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #112 on: June 13, 2019, 04:32:43 pm »
Any chance I could learn the magic incantation as well? Would be much appreciated! Thanks.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #113 on: June 14, 2019, 04:33:13 pm »
@plurn I too would appreciate a copy of the workaround info.
Thanks in advance.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2019, 10:13:03 pm by bluejedi »
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #114 on: June 14, 2019, 05:10:37 pm »
Check my previous (edited) post.
 
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #115 on: June 14, 2019, 07:51:09 pm »
One more question, will the hack mess the SAG1021 license ?


edit. it took me a while, sorry :D
« Last Edit: June 15, 2019, 09:30:51 pm by jousis »
 
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #116 on: June 16, 2019, 04:35:53 pm »
The .33 firmware is annoying! There's so many extra steps to do basic things like setting probe attenuation. Before this stupid firmware, turning the dial would easily adjust. Now you have to select it, go to the next screen, select it again, and then turn the knob.  |O
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #117 on: June 16, 2019, 08:10:25 pm »
The .33 firmware is annoying! There's so many extra steps to do basic things like setting probe attenuation. Before this stupid firmware, turning the dial would easily adjust. Now you have to select it, go to the next screen, select it again, and then turn the knob.  |O

this is due to fact that the same firmware (executable) seems to compiled for different models, so one can find inside as well SDS5000X, SDS2000X-E, SDS1000X-E and SDS2000X+(10bit, what?), where some of these models support active probe and their information/calibration - that's why the menu has been changed

EDIT: actually deep look inside the .33 firmware shows as well other interesting things, like MIL-1553 or Flex options, not only new 10bit DSO SDS2000XPlus, hmm
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #118 on: June 16, 2019, 09:33:58 pm »
EDIT: actually deep look inside the .33 firmware shows as well other interesting things, like MIL-1553 or Flex options, not only new 10bit DSO SDS2000XPlus, hmm

Because they are using the same source code as in the SDS5000X... Nothing more.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #119 on: June 16, 2019, 09:47:51 pm »
EDIT: actually deep look inside the .33 firmware shows as well other interesting things, like MIL-1553 or Flex options, not only new 10bit DSO SDS2000XPlus, hmm
Oh, juicy.  :)
Actually I need MIL-1553 as an option for one of my customers classroom sets of SDS1202X-E for cadet training use.....nice to know it's part of later FW but I did suspect it was.  ;)

All we need now is to work on enabling it.  :P
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #120 on: June 17, 2019, 07:47:11 am »
Its fully baked in there. Its just the access chain for the menus are missing if you try using the specific commands you will soft lock the scope application.

They also hard coded the menu tree unlike previous versions. (I wonder why  ;. ) its not yet obvious to me where the menu / UI thread is. As I know where the menu entry points are. They are just dereferenced.

Personally I would love the option to buy the canfd decoder
 
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #121 on: June 17, 2019, 05:47:13 pm »
EDIT: actually deep look inside the .33 firmware shows as well other interesting things, like MIL-1553 or Flex options, not only new 10bit DSO SDS2000XPlus, hmm

Because they are using the same source code as in the SDS5000X... Nothing more.

that's right, but on the other hand what the firmware is doing depends on model name, i tried already SDS2000X-E binary on SDS1000X-E and was of course nothing special, it worked exactly as the SDS1000X-E firmware did. So vice versa it could be possible to lie about hardware version to get 2000 series features running on 1000 series.


Personally I would love the option to buy the canfd decoder

the firmware does read and evaluate at least options_canfd_cfg.bin files, once i placed it (copy of my unused wifi_cfg.bin), it immediately created options_canfd_times.txt, even if this is not available feature on 1000X-E, so the hope remains (however, there are some changes to licensing check, some extra _md5_ here and there ...)
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #122 on: June 17, 2019, 06:26:13 pm »
that's right, but on the other hand what the firmware is doing depends on model name, i tried already SDS2000X-E binary on SDS1000X-E and was of course nothing special, it worked exactly as the SDS1000X-E firmware did. So vice versa it could be possible to lie about hardware version to get 2000 series features running on 1000 series.

But the 1000 and 2000 are equal in terms of Options licenses, so no much gain there.

The big question is: did you see anywhere the use of a 5000 option in a 1000/2000 menu?

Because running the 5000 FW in the 1000 should be another ballgame...

PS: is it possible to trigger, for example,  CANFD analysis/decoding via SCPI?
« Last Edit: June 17, 2019, 06:29:08 pm by tv84 »
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #123 on: June 20, 2019, 12:18:35 am »
I tried several memory dumps made via web interface/SCPI but I am unable to find my scope id in the dump. I can only find a sequence of at most 2 scope id bytes matching in memory but not more. I'm running v7.1.6.1.26 + root telnet access patch (the one that requires root pwd).

I also tried to make a dump via telnet with: cat /dev/mem > /usr/bin/siglent/usr/mass_storage/U-disk0/memdump10.bin but this consistently fails with the following error: cat: read error: Bad address

Are there any other possibilities to extract the keys from the scope?
« Last Edit: June 20, 2019, 12:35:48 am by bluejedi »
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #124 on: June 20, 2019, 12:28:30 am »
Run the update (one time only) and do:

http://<scope_IP>/web_img/startTelnet9999.php

Install the attached .ads before or after the 6.1.33 update?
« Last Edit: June 20, 2019, 12:33:01 am by bluejedi »
 


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