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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #125 on: June 21, 2019, 01:16:06 am »
... SDS2000X+(10bit, what?), ...
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... new 10bit DSO SDS2000XPlus ...
SDS2000X+ is the successor of the SDS2000X, currently still under development. It will not be a 10bit DSO.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #126 on: June 21, 2019, 06:54:50 am »
Install the attached .ads before or after the 6.1.33 update?
Install the .ads after updated to 6.1.33.

To find your keys, I recommand to perform a factory reset and do the memory dump just after power on the scope.
 
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #127 on: June 21, 2019, 10:34:10 am »
... SDS2000X+(10bit, what?), ...
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... new 10bit DSO SDS2000XPlus ...
SDS2000X+ is the successor of the SDS2000X, currently still under development. It will not be a 10bit DSO.

Hello Performa01,

Do you have additional information regarding this SDS2000X+ ??
spec ? price ?
approx release date ?

Thank you :)
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #128 on: June 21, 2019, 04:04:08 pm »
Do you have additional information regarding this SDS2000X+ ??
Sorry, but I don't know anything yet. All I know is that there most definitely is no 10bit scope in the pipeline.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #129 on: July 04, 2019, 06:39:32 pm »
Hello @plurn or anyone that knows the workaround
Could you please sende me the workaround for the .33

Thank you very much
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #130 on: July 05, 2019, 11:02:45 pm »
PM sent ffabi :)
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #131 on: July 15, 2019, 09:19:40 pm »

Hello , and for  me too, please   ::)   :)
 @plurn or anyone that knows the workaround
 please sende me the workaround for the ..33

Very Big Thanks !
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #132 on: August 17, 2019, 11:06:19 pm »
Hey,

I just took the chance before updating to 6.1.33 and did the update of bandwidth. I used the dump created with SHELLCMD, the key was easy to find in my case and MCBD <key> worked.

Then I started the telnetd without password on port 9999, logged into the device, remounted /usr/bin/siglent as rw and put my own backdoor in the lighttpd cgi directory:

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/usr/bin/siglent/config/www # cat telnetd.php
<?php
shell_exec('telnetd -l/bin/sh -p9999');
?>

Then I did the update to 6.1.33, 200M bw is kept, and backdoor still working  :)

Thanks for your investigations!
 
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #133 on: October 06, 2019, 05:26:10 am »
Please PM workaround. Thanks!
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #134 on: October 11, 2019, 11:46:47 pm »
Hello, I'm interested in the .6.1.33 workaround!
Great discussion and lots of good information here, thanks you all.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #135 on: October 25, 2019, 08:42:05 am »
I have the idea to buy a sds1104x to have something to "tinker on" in my christmas vacation.

I read all threads a year ago... and hacking was easy and a no brainer. But then I had no time for a new toy... and stuck to the scopes I could use at my work. And to be honest... these would be more than sufficient for my needs.

But nevertheless, now I'm on the jump to get one. But now after reading I'm confused. Especially because I have no scope on my bench for checking things out by myself.

So please give me some hints... if buying with hacking in mind is still an option. And I mean it as an "option" -- because I possibly wouldn't make use of that.

So... is it possible to hack the 100 MHz to 200 MHz and get the internal signal generator and the other add-ons running?

And is it possible to downgrade any FW (6.1.33 and up) to a hackable version... and then hack and upgrade back with than activated upgrades?

An advice would be great.

And a PM with special instructions -- if necessary -- would be appreciated.

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #136 on: October 25, 2019, 08:50:27 am »
the internal signal generator......
The sig gen is an additional external HW option, SAG1021.
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #137 on: October 25, 2019, 08:58:09 am »
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The sig gen is an additional external HW option, SAG1021.

I had in my memory that one could upgrade to some kind of internal software function generator as one channel... and an additional hardware box as a second channel.

But I have to admit... I read all the specs and features of the possible "around 500€" oscilloscopes a year ago and may mix things up.

Writing this I checked the product page of the seller: SDS1000X-E-FG as software upgrade is needed in addition.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #138 on: October 25, 2019, 09:04:21 am »
nope, single external channel via AWG device, it is not a 2 channel sig-gen, that other BNC acts as a trigger in / out,

You can modulate 1 waveform with another, but not with external input.

For similar money you can buy an entry level AWG siglent device, and use that via usb instead for bode plot
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #139 on: October 25, 2019, 09:05:32 am »
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The sig gen is an additional external HW option, SAG1021.

I had in my memory that one could upgrade to some kind of internal software function generator as one channel... and an additional hardware box as a second channel.

But I have to admit... I read all the specs and features of the possible "around 500€" oscilloscopes a year ago and may mix things up.

Writing this I checked the product page of the seller: SDS1000X-E-FG as software upgrade is needed in addition.
Correct, to get AWG usage of SAG1021 you need the FG option once the free trial usages expire.
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #140 on: October 25, 2019, 09:28:47 am »
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Correct, to get AWG usage of SAG1021 you need the FG option once the free trial usages expire.

Which is a quite interesting concept of selling a pricey black-box without a software for using it. The simple Shenzhen 2ch function generator with it's own display I use for playing around costs less than half the price of that box (well: Of course, I got the quality I paid for ;-).

All these options are nice to have... but not necessary... therefore, not an option to pay for. I wouldn't even need more than 50 MHz because of the scopes I have at work for that occasions.

So the question stays: The state of the hack? And I shouldn't have said this sentence to a board member with a "NZ Siglent Distributor" in his description ;-)
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #141 on: October 25, 2019, 09:30:31 am »
For similar money you can buy an entry level AWG siglent device, and use that via usb instead for bode plot

Which is my plan, if I buy a Siglent scope.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #142 on: October 25, 2019, 09:54:14 am »
State of the hack, different method, but still works, just dig around a bit,

They are not opposed to us doing whatever we want with our hardware when we get it, they are opposed to remote vulnerabilities.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #143 on: October 25, 2019, 10:16:42 am »
State of the hack, different method, but still works, just dig around a bit,

They are not opposed to us doing whatever we want with our hardware when we get it, they are opposed to remote vulnerabilities.

Good to read that. I'm not even sure that (if I buy that scope) I would use the hack. But to have "options" is a well respected bonus-feature in my decision making process.

So everything is open in the forum... and no PM is needed?
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #144 on: October 25, 2019, 06:43:13 pm »
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Correct, to get AWG usage of SAG1021 you need the FG option once the free trial usages expire.

Which is a quite interesting concept of selling a pricey black-box without a software for using it.
Only the AWG functionality is optioned and SAG1021 gives free and unhindered use for Bode plot.

The best solution is to have a standalone AWG and the Siglent ones allow for seamless SDS1*04X-E connectivity for Bode plot use. They work in the same way as SAG1021 in that they are totally controlled by the scopes Bode plot feature.


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And I shouldn't have said this sentence to a board member with a "NZ Siglent Distributor" in his description ;-)
Fear not, a good amount of my own Siglent equipment is 'improved'.  ;)
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #145 on: October 25, 2019, 10:10:24 pm »
Another option to a Siglent AWG that works with the scope's Bode Plot is in the below link

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds1104x-e-and-sds1204x-e-bode-plot-with-non-siglent-awg/
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #146 on: October 26, 2019, 07:40:00 am »
Hello

Could anyone share Plurn's workaround with me? Either by PM or email.
Thank you very much.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #147 on: October 26, 2019, 08:18:36 am »
Hello

Could anyone share Plurn's workaround with me? Either by PM or email.
Thank you very much.

Msg #105.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #148 on: October 26, 2019, 10:40:33 am »
Just after having posting this, I thought a little and think one could easily patch the app to allow the scope to accept the 250 Mhz and 300 MHz models.

That would be interesting to see how the FW/HW would react...   :-DD

Volunteers, opinions?   ;)
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E Hack to 200Mhz, and full options ?
« Reply #149 on: October 26, 2019, 03:47:44 pm »
Just after having posting, I thought a little and think one could easily patch the app to allow the scope to accept the 250 Mhz and 300 MHz models.

That would be interesting to see how the FW/HW would react...   :-DD

Volunteers, opinions?   ;)

i tested SDS1204X-E with generated license keys (250 and 300 models), got model name displayed, but in the reality the DSO switched back to 70MHz model (~, based on risetime). Haven't tested 350 and 500MHz keys, but 750M / 1G (model name goes empty, SDS worked strange instable, after some playing had to restore nand, risetime as 70MHz model) and MAX key (lic key not accepted). I can't prove anymore, but as i started to play with 300MHz lic, it was not acepted / model Name not changed, till i applied once 1G lic key, rebooted, and 300MHz (so in principle made model empty with out of range/scope lic, and then 300MHz key). Since then, even after nand restore, i can use 300M lic key. So maybe real, or coincident, or maybe i was too stoned as i tested it first time.
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