Siglent SDS1000X-HD - Bugs and "features" thread.

[tautech]

As I mentioned in another post, the SDS1104X-U has pretty much been abandoned by Siglent since its release (never got any firmware update). I am now eyeing the SDS1000X HD, because although the SDS800X HD covers my current needs, my eyesight isn't great. I think it is overpriced compared to the SDS800X HD, and I woud prefer if Siglent at least differentiates it more through firmware features, but, did anyone notice that 1.1.6.2 is out for the SDS800X HD for a month now, while the SDS1000X HD is still on 1.1.3.8? Makes me wonder if the SDS800X HD is going to be much better supported, because it obviously is way more popular.

800X HD and 1kX HD have an option to increase font size for improved readability.
@66 I'm wearing glasses for most bench work now however don't need the larger font ...... yet.

[KAKUL]

Hi guys.
I'm waiting for a great update with new features.

[tautech]

Hi guys.
I'm waiting for a great update with new features.

We're looking at new beta FW now that will get these to where SDS800X HD is currently at.

[Performa01]

Hi guys.
I'm waiting for a great update with new features.

We're looking at new beta FW now that will get these to where SDS800X HD is currently at.

I'm curious if many Tektronix users would ever be "waiting for a great update with new features". Or Keysight users. Or Rohde & Schwarz users. Or - you get the point.

No, they certainly would not, because they know that every new feature would be an expensive paid option.

Siglent, on the other hand, provides a lot of features for free, that used to be or still are expensive paid options elsewhere, such as usable memory depth, segmented memory, mask test or serial triggers/decoders for the most popular protocols.

Why on earth expect certain people "great updates with new features" - for free, of course - from Siglent of all things? Just because Siglent was doing this sometimes in the past?

[Martin72]

That's true, Siglent has spoiled its customers in this regard..
And they forget that the devices are already pretty well equipped out of the box.
As an example, to surpass the functionality of the Siglent FFT, I would have to purchase an additional option from LeCroy for €2,700, as the “normal” FFT function on MAUI scopes is clearly inferior to that of Siglent.
On the other hand, Siglent also charges for additional options, such as extra decoders or power analysis.
There have also been firmware updates that added new decoder types, which you have to pay for in order to use them without restriction.
They're not entirely selfless...
Perhaps they (Siglent) think along the same lines as me.
What are new features, what are options...
For me, a new feature is an extension of an existing function, something that makes the scope more attractive compared to the competition.
Whether you should pay for it again...
Siglent probably doesn't think so, otherwise they wouldn't have been made available free of charge as a firmware update in the past.
Adding a new function, on the other hand, would be an option (for which you have to pay).
As I said, “we” Siglent Scope owners have been very spoiled in this regard.
I think it's a characteristic, a kind of corporate identity that they are known for, that sets them apart from others, and that's why people choose them.
Nevertheless, you shouldn't expect a “big hit” every time there's a firmware update.
Especially since it would make no economic sense to upgrade the small models to such an extent that there would be hardly any reason left to buy a larger one.
Oh well, it's not a clear-cut case.

[KAKUL]

I meant this features:custom channel colors,DVM...

[Martin72]

These are more features from the next higher series (2000 series), which would of course be nice if they were also available for the 1000 series.
But I find that hard to imagine.
But never say never.

[Performa01]

I meant this features:custom channel colors,DVM...

These are not "new features" - they have been available on the higher end DSOs and even on some range of the upper class 2000 series scopes.

It is just so that we cannot expect to have all these features even in the entry level range of instruments. For instance, the SDS800X HD series is even more limited purely by software, e.g. lack of the M2 measurement format. And it's not even always pure marketing strategy - often it's also a matter of limited memory or FPGA ressources on the cheaper machines.

Cusom colors ara availabele in the SDS2000X Plus and higher.
DVM is available in SDS2000X HD and higher.

[hfleming]

Just a heads-up. There is new firmware (1.1.6.7) available for the SDS1000X HD scopes. I couldn’t update it via the web server, but from memory stick it works fine.
The release notes say that in XY-mode split screen is available, but I couldn’t get it working yet, and the manual hasn’t been updated yet. maybe I must do a set to defaults before the split-screen XY-mode becomes available?

[KungFuJosh]

It's usually a good idea to restore factory defaults after a firmware upgrade.