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Siglent just drop its mic: New SDS800HD 12bit scope crazy price leaked
Martin72:
There's not that much to adjust to get the right result - if even I can do it, that means something. ;)
And I wasn't alone, others have managed it too.
It's just a question of whether you want it or not and obviously it wasn't wanted if the operator is actually an expert in the field.
Fungus:
--- Quote from: nctnico on December 10, 2023, 07:21:47 pm ---Ask yourself this though: if somebody like Dave, who is not new to oscilloscopes at all, can't get it to work; how about a hobbyist / novice user? There is a lot to say for tools which are intuitive to use and Rigol seems to have hit the nail on the head. -insert Monty Python's ministry of funny walks video here-
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I tried to make that argument earlier and got myself flamed by the Siglent club.
So long as the peaks/noise are easy to find and measure (which they are) then what's the problem? :-//
aeberbach:
I preferred the Siglent I had to the Rigol I had, this news makes me happy that I didn't jump on the 12-bit Rigol already. Looking forward to seeing real price and availability figures and of course the full review.
2N3055:
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--- Quote from: Fungus on December 10, 2023, 11:24:09 am ---Siglent FFT might have the "missing" parameter but even Dave managed to screw something up when he tried to use it (Siglent apologists swear it was Dave's fault, not the 'scopes fault. Right?)
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Correct and proven Dave has no idea by several members posts in other threads.
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Ask yourself this though: if somebody like Dave, who is not new to oscilloscopes at all, can't get it to work; how about a hobbyist / novice user? There is a lot to say for tools which are intuitive to use and Rigol seems to have hit the nail on the head. -insert Monty Python's ministry of funny walks video here-
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I would not say that Dave has no idea, but also he is not advanced user either. Not because he couldn't be. He is a smart guy.
But let's be frank, he prefers certain type of workflow and anything that is different he simply ignores. And also he says all the time "I couldn't be bothered to read the manual" and then fumbles around scope buttons and knobs twiddling them nervously until screen starts showing something familiar. He has no patience...
That makes for entertaining videos. Which is what he does for living.
He did that for R&S scopes, and Rigol scopes and all of the scopes that are not Keysight, that he knows how to drive...
Dave's videos are not a reference. They are data point. With specific features. Very useful but not a reference.
Performa01:
--- Quote from: 2N3055 on December 11, 2023, 08:30:15 am ---Dave's videos are not a reference. They are data point. With specific features. Very useful but not a reference.
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And it's quite the opposite of the clueless claims.
It is not hard at all to setup an FM spectrum display, yet it proved impossible (for me at least) to reproduce the weird display Dave has shown in the video. This is what I said in the review thread about the incident:
--- Quote ---Remember when the DHO800 showed weird things on the screen? Dave tried hard to find the cause – which in the end was just a flaky cable connection. He made even a separate video on it. Yet when the Siglent showed implausible results, Dave just wrote it off as “it doesn’t like it at all” – and Rigol fanboys had a party, even though it should be very clear that such an obvious major bug would not have gone unnoticed for an instrument that’s been on the market for almost 6 years now and numerous examples of its (still) superb FFT have been posted in this forum already.
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