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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #300 on: April 27, 2017, 06:05:05 am »
Heeeelp, I'm turning into a Volt nut.  :scared:

I can help. Just ship any and all meters you have in stock to me so you can return to your normal life.
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Nah, I'll only keep one but which one ?  :-/O

I think the SDM3065X might go to an existing customer and EEVblog member not too far away for a little while and some YouTube review time.... we've just started a discussion about it.  8)
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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #301 on: May 03, 2017, 07:01:58 pm »
Looks like Batronix has the SDM3065X in stock now: http://www.batronix.com/shop/multimeter/Siglent-SDM3065X.html

I wonder if there will ever be a sans-GPIB "light" version?
 

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #302 on: May 03, 2017, 07:18:28 pm »
Siglent are slowly rolling out open LAN ports for many products as a workaround the need for GPIB.
Open LAN ports are present in the SDM3000 range.

They also have a USB-GPIB adapter that's compatible with most of their products and listed as an accessory for SDM3000 range.
http://siglentamerica.com/prodcut-fjxx.aspx?fjid=1198&id=5211&tid=37&T=2

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #303 on: May 03, 2017, 08:03:56 pm »
I should have my SDM3065X tomorrow.  I'll post some info once I have a chance to play with it.
 

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #304 on: May 04, 2017, 08:44:30 pm »
Only had it powered on for 45 min but so far I'm not disappointed.

@23deg C

SDM3065x powered on for 30min, cold power on of the 10v LT1021 Doug Malone reference (calibrated last week).  The LT1021 took about 10 min to settle.




100uV span zoom, you can see the A to D resolution here.


Center comes out to 10.000008, so basically its perfectly agrees with Doug's cal.  Have to get back to work, will post more later.

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #305 on: May 04, 2017, 08:56:25 pm »
Nice kj7e.  :-+
Have a look through the UI for how to grab screenshots onto a USB stick.
Might be a bit simpler and faster than using a camera if you don't need to show the setup.

Looking forward to you digging deeper into this unit.
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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #306 on: May 04, 2017, 09:06:08 pm »
Yes you can grab and save screen shots to the USB, but this was faster and easier in my particular case at the moment.
 
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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #307 on: May 04, 2017, 10:29:59 pm »
I managed to get one from Batterfly... happy so far.

Noticed today that it doesn't have DHCP on the LAN setting. Come on Siglent, pull the finger out!
 
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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #308 on: May 11, 2017, 09:12:32 pm »
Please Dave, do. I'd like to know what to expect from them.
Just because they figured their issues with chassis rust  :P

Additionally, it would be interesting to see, depending on their choice of parts and Vref, if they would be able to hold on their calibration over time as HPs 3478A are doing. These HP DMMs are fascinating!
 

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #309 on: May 12, 2017, 12:06:18 am »
My review of the SDM3065X is shown below:

https://youtu.be/k6HE8qV3CA4
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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #310 on: May 13, 2017, 01:53:33 pm »
Please Dave, do. I'd like to know what to expect from them.
Just because they figured their issues with chassis rust  :P

Additionally, it would be interesting to see, depending on their choice of parts and Vref, if they would be able to hold on their calibration over time as HPs 3478A are doing. These HP DMMs are fascinating!

The reference in the sdm3065x is a LM399.

I did some testing of both the warmup time, tempco stability, and overall calibration.  So far it seems Siglent did a good job with the initial cal.

Testing some very accurate resistors;
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/metrology/resistance-standard-shielding-how-important-is-it/msg1205528/#msg1205528

DC Voltage tests and tempco drift;
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/metrology/34461a-warm-up-time-vs-sdm3065x/msg1201676/#msg1201676

I also have one of Ian Johnstons PDVS2's which also uses a LM399 reference, tested between 10mV to 10V and the two units agree almost exactly, well within the error budget of just one single unit.
 
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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #311 on: June 20, 2017, 09:11:36 pm »
Just found out that Siglent has released a total new EasyDDM software package that supports all Siglent SDM series meters.

It is not on the main Siglent site, but I found a link on siglent.eu : https://www.siglent.eu/Downloads#Software

The version is: Version: 1.01.02.01.03 | Published | 2017-05-24

It has a totally new look and feel compared to the old version and looks much more professional:



Thank you Siglent !!




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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #312 on: June 20, 2017, 10:32:23 pm »
I did a usage review of this software in May, it came with the SDM3065X I reviewed.

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #313 on: June 21, 2017, 01:59:03 pm »
Yes, the software also supports the new multi-channel scanner card option (not retrofittable) for the SDM3055 and DM3065X models. The scanner option will not be available on the SDM3045X.
 

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #314 on: June 22, 2017, 12:54:21 pm »
Hi there,

Is anyone knows what is the latest firmware for SDM3055 device? Siglent website does not have any updates on this subject.

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #315 on: June 22, 2017, 12:58:48 pm »
Hi there,

Is anyone knows what is the latest firmware for SDM3055 device? Siglent website does not have any updates on this subject.

Thanks in advance!

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Current Version: P01.16R2 | Published?2016-03-22
It can be found at
http://www.siglentamerica.com/prodcut-gjjrj.aspx?id=176&tid=37&T=2

You will also find updated EasyDMM there as well.
 

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #316 on: June 27, 2017, 09:08:32 am »
Dear Siglent,

Another question - I have not found any mentioning on possibility to measure resistance with lover voltage on leads. That feature is common on some DMMs - for example - measuring resistance with 0.2 to 0.5 V for on-board testing not to turn any semiconductor devices. Is this possible with SDM3055 or might be possible with future update?
 

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #317 on: June 28, 2017, 03:05:20 pm »
Dear Siglent,

Another question - I have not found any mentioning on possibility to measure resistance with lover voltage on leads. That feature is common on some DMMs - for example - measuring resistance with 0.2 to 0.5 V for on-board testing not to turn any semiconductor devices. Is this possible with SDM3055 or might be possible with future update?

Hi.
We happened to be exhibiting at a show this week and one of the larger, older test equipment companies had a booth right next to Siglent. We asked one of their people if their line of DMMs had this feature (they have many more models than do we) and he said that only one of their models did and that it was the high-end lab model. So their 4.5, 5.5, and 6.5 digit models did not.

We will enter this into our "wants list" but we know of no plans to add it in the near future.
 

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #318 on: June 28, 2017, 03:42:11 pm »
Thanks for this clarification. Hopefully I have Appa 109N, which being portable is capable of such a function.
I'd like to ask another question - regarding temperature measuring. I've noticed that K-type probe, which works Ok with my Appa 109N DMM is showing approx. +4 celcium degrees on SDM3055. I have found no way to calibrate it or do anything with this situation. Is there some procedure for changing ITS90 tables inside the device, or calibrating the probe?
 

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #319 on: June 28, 2017, 07:25:51 pm »
Thanks for this clarification. Hopefully I have Appa 109N, which being portable is capable of such a function.
I'd like to ask another question - regarding temperature measuring. I've noticed that K-type probe, which works Ok with my Appa 109N DMM is showing approx. +4 celcium degrees on SDM3055. I have found no way to calibrate it or do anything with this situation. Is there some procedure for changing ITS90 tables inside the device, or calibrating the probe?

I don't know of any user-adjustable way to change the Temperature calibration on the SDM3065X.

I noticed the accuracy of the Appa 109N is listed as 0.1% + 3 deg C.
The SDM3065X accuracy for a K thermocouple is 0.5 dec C after a 90 minute warm-up. It also has built in cold-junction compensation.
 

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #320 on: June 28, 2017, 10:00:19 pm »
I don't know of any user-adjustable way to change the Temperature calibration on the SDM3065X.

I noticed the accuracy of the Appa 109N is listed as 0.1% + 3 deg C.
The SDM3065X accuracy for a K thermocouple is 0.5 dec C after a 90 minute warm-up. It also has built in cold-junction compensation.

Well, yes, but temperature of my fingers cannot be 39 degrees celsius. It's more like 33-34, like Appa displays.
Anyway, will test it with other probes in a couple days.
And this is regarding SDM3055 unit, not 3065X.
 

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #321 on: June 29, 2017, 12:06:24 pm »
I don't know of any user-adjustable way to change the Temperature calibration on the SDM3065X.

I noticed the accuracy of the Appa 109N is listed as 0.1% + 3 deg C.
The SDM3065X accuracy for a K thermocouple is 0.5 dec C after a 90 minute warm-up. It also has built in cold-junction compensation.

Well, yes, but temperature of my fingers cannot be 39 degrees celsius. It's more like 33-34, like Appa displays.
Anyway, will test it with other probes in a couple days.
And this is regarding SDM3055 unit, not 3065X.

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #322 on: June 30, 2017, 01:26:45 pm »
Hello,
I  have an SDM3055 with firmware 1.01.01.16R2.  My continuity beeper has failed.  Totally silent no matter what setting.  I have loaded factory defaults, still no beeper.  If I go to Board Test mode and press Beeper, no sound.  Has anyone else seen this?

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #323 on: July 03, 2017, 11:05:53 pm »
Hello,
I  have an SDM3055 with firmware 1.01.01.16R2.  My continuity beeper has failed.  Totally silent no matter what setting.  I have loaded factory defaults, still no beeper.  If I go to Board Test mode and press Beeper, no sound.  Has anyone else seen this?

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Just checked mine...........yep you have a problem.  :(
Use any of the links here to contact your closest Siglent branch for support:
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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #324 on: July 03, 2017, 11:34:03 pm »
Hello,
I  have an SDM3055 with firmware 1.01.01.16R2.  My continuity beeper has failed.  Totally silent no matter what setting.  I have loaded factory defaults, still no beeper.  If I go to Board Test mode and press Beeper, no sound.  Has anyone else seen this?

Elrod
Just checked mine...........yep you have a problem.  :(
Use any of the links here to contact your closest Siglent branch for support:
http://www.siglent.com/ENs/lxwms.aspx?id=1337
@ Elrod
Stumbled on this post about a beeper bug some time ago:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-new-bench-dmm-sdm3055/msg1016363/#msg1016363
Mentions toggling the beeper ON and OFF and the problem disappears. Have you tried that ?
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