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Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #325 on: July 04, 2017, 02:38:31 am »
It seems that this is their very first multimeter ever released. Then I do not want it. It has a color LCD, so it must be full of bugs.
I would trust GW Instek multimeters instead. Yes, they make some so-so scopes, but they still work as promised. Almost.

"This multimeter has a color LCD, so it must be full of bugs"

I love it.

My sentiments exactly.


I will let them work out the issues for a year or two and we will see :)
 

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #326 on: July 04, 2017, 02:48:16 pm »
Tautech,
I have updated my profile.  I sent an email to info@siglent.com.  I bought the SDM3055 from TEquipment.net who I believe no longer carry Siglent.
 
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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #327 on: July 04, 2017, 07:41:11 pm »
Tautech,
I have updated my profile.  I sent an email to info@siglent.com.  I bought the SDM3055 from TEquipment.net who I believe no longer carry Siglent.
Good.
Check you profile for a PM from the factory otherwise Steve and the guys for Ohio will be in touch.
Factory Tech support mentioned to me it is most likely a buzzer HW failure and they will fix it.
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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #328 on: July 06, 2017, 12:19:45 am »
I received an email from Siglent in Ohio and it included an RMA number.  My SDM3055 is on its way for repair.

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #329 on: July 06, 2017, 02:39:02 am »
Tautech,
I have updated my profile.  I sent an email to info@siglent.com.  I bought the SDM3055 from TEquipment.net who I believe no longer carry Siglent.
Good.
Check you profile for a PM from the factory otherwise Steve and the guys for Ohio will be in touch.
Factory Tech support mentioned to me it is most likely a buzzer HW failure and they will fix it.
Is Steve with Micro Sales on Perimeter Loop in Dublin Ohio?

I'll actually be in Columbus about 15 miles from those guys from the 14th through the 22nd on business. I wonder if I could get a demo unit from them to play with.

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #330 on: July 06, 2017, 07:01:41 am »
Tautech,
I have updated my profile.  I sent an email to info@siglent.com.  I bought the SDM3055 from TEquipment.net who I believe no longer carry Siglent.
Good.
Check you profile for a PM from the factory otherwise Steve and the guys for Ohio will be in touch.
Factory Tech support mentioned to me it is most likely a buzzer HW failure and they will fix it.
Is Steve with Micro Sales on Perimeter Loop in Dublin Ohio?
No.

This Steve:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/profile/?u=97174

SIGLENT Technologies America, Inc
6557 Cochran Rd Solon, Ohio 44139

I'm sure they'd show you all you needed to know if you popped by.
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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #331 on: August 31, 2017, 11:03:02 am »
For owners of SDM3065X ONLY, there is new firmware.

http://siglentamerica.com/gjjrj-xq.aspx?id=6414&tid=15

Version: V3.01.01.03
6.9 Mb

Changelog
1.  Add U disk recovery function.
2.  Add the update of the calibration data function.
3.  Fix the bug of a few abnormal DCV measurements when the input terminal is shorted .
4.  Repair the external trigger problem.
5.  Some FPGA optimizations.
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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #332 on: August 31, 2017, 01:35:10 pm »
The SDM3055 also got new firmware:

http://siglentamerica.com/gjjrj-xq.aspx?id=6413&tid=15

ReleaseDate
8/31/2017 1:53:15 AM
Version: V1.01.01.19
Imprint

1.  Add U disk recovery function.
2.  Modify Hold function arithmetic.
3.  Add the telnet SCPI function.
4.  Repair the external trig problem.
 
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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #333 on: August 31, 2017, 03:02:11 pm »
Thanx Eric-H !

Just installed on my SDM3055 and installation went fine. The beeper bug I reported before is also solved. Thank you Siglent !
 

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #334 on: September 18, 2017, 02:37:55 am »
To add to the other recent SDM30** FW:

SDM3045X
Version: V5.01.01.03
6.7 Mb

http://siglentamerica.com/gjjrj-xq.aspx?id=6427&tid=15

Changelog
1.   Add U disk recovery function.
2.   Modify Hold function arithmetic.
3.   Add the telnet SCPI function; port is 5024
   Example: telnet 192.168.0.105024
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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #335 on: October 22, 2017, 04:53:39 pm »
Few months usage of SDM3065X behind, I just quickly verified that the equipment is still rust free ;) It looks like cutting edges of metal parts are coated or galvanized to black finish.

The reference voltage source is LM399H as expected and seems to be good enough for 6.5 digit multimeter. I can see clear difference in build quality and PCB layout comparing to the SDM3055 in Dave’s teardown, new teardown for SDM3065X would be nice to see from Dave :)
 
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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #336 on: February 09, 2018, 07:32:13 am »
Hi,

There is a bug that was identified in this meter 3045X that is shown in the linked video from TRX bench.  When he measures the DC offset (2V) of a 1Khz sine wave the Siglent measures low.  Does anyone who has used this multi meter know if this is a real bug and if so has it been fixed.  The current firmware seems to be 2  minor versions ahead of the version in the video (5.1.1.1 vs 5.1.1.3).    https://youtu.be/K09BLgyk9Hg?t=58m15s
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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #337 on: February 10, 2018, 10:12:47 am »
I tried to recreate that bug but i wasnt able to. My meter is on version 5.1.1.3.
 

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #338 on: February 12, 2018, 04:14:47 pm »
Anyone know why the scanner card is a factory installed option only? It's not like you don't remove it to wire it up. I've been eyeing the 3065x but am not sure if/when I might want the scanner card. Things would be much simpler if it could be added at any time.
 

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« Reply #339 on: February 12, 2018, 04:25:25 pm »
Anyone know why the scanner card is a factory installed option only? It's not like you don't remove it to wire it up. I've been eyeing the 3065x but am not sure if/when I might want the scanner card. Things would be much simpler if it could be added at any time.

Hi Joel,
I understand and asked Engineering this question last year myself. It turns out that we have to install one or more additional ICs, on the main PCB of the DMM for that scanner card, that are not installed otherwise. There also may have been an additional connector that the standard unit does not have.

So it involves soldering SMD devices and connectors - which is why it is not retrofittable - and I believe the factory opted to keep the price down for a standard unit and leave those parts out.
 

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #340 on: February 12, 2018, 07:35:28 pm »
That's unfortunate. Are the modules available separately so that test setups can be pre-wired?
 

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« Reply #341 on: February 12, 2018, 08:18:09 pm »
That's unfortunate. Are the modules available separately so that test setups can be pre-wired?

The scanner card is tested and shipped with the unit so it cannot be pre-ordered. The scanner connections are quick-release so they shouldn't take long to wire up.
 

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #342 on: February 12, 2018, 08:34:16 pm »
These kind of connections should be made using pluggable terminal blocks so it is easier to use one piece of equipment in multiple test setups. This is not just my opinion but that of several of my customers when I design products for them.
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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #343 on: February 12, 2018, 09:23:00 pm »
That's unfortunate. Are the modules available separately so that test setups can be pre-wired?
Maybe.
Part of the reason they're not available as a post sales option (other than already mentioned) is all the 16 channels are connected to a calibrator and the base unit card inputs settings saved as particular to that scanner card.

Anyways, good question and one we'll need to ask the factory after their hols.


There is the owners option to build a wired test header and externally terminate into an array/selection of test looms to suit your needs. 110VAC and 2.3A max ratings needs to be observed in the choice of header.

Oh, and NO hot plugging of the scanner card.

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #344 on: February 13, 2018, 07:37:05 pm »
It will be interesting to hear what they say. From my personal use perspective, it is probably not much of a hassle. In a past life I did reliability and qualification testing, swapping wires would not have been acceptable and an external dongle barely so. And if it's true that each card is somehow matched to the meter, that would have been a deal breaker.
 

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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #345 on: February 13, 2018, 07:55:47 pm »
It will be interesting to hear what they say. From my personal use perspective, it is probably not much of a hassle. In a past life I did reliability and qualification testing, swapping wires would not have been acceptable and an external dongle barely so. And if it's true that each card is somehow matched to the meter, that would have been a deal breaker.
Give me a reminder about this, say by the end of Feb.

It maybe just to calibrate out the meter to scanner card signal path and maybe the cards CAN be swapped, this I would hope is the case.
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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #346 on: February 13, 2018, 08:23:52 pm »
I received an email from Siglent in Ohio and it included an RMA number.  My SDM3055 is on its way for repair.

Lucky you; my SDS1202X-E that's 8 months old has the "in specification" 'feature' that requires me to re-adjust the probe compensation every time I change the Y range and all I got from Steve was surface mount capacitors sent to me as a DIY fix - oh and if I mess it up, my warranty's voided.

I have a Keysight 34461A 6.5 digit multimeter, it's great.
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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #347 on: February 14, 2018, 03:15:17 pm »
Even KS has their issues, I was about to buy one of those when the max voltage issue came up. Checking a datasheet recently it looks like it's back to 1000V. If it was a HW change, wonder what they did for customers with downgraded units.
 

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« Reply #348 on: February 14, 2018, 03:31:36 pm »
Apparently there never was an actual issue.
Someone said there might be so they took the safe route and degraded the meter while investigating after which it was determined to not be an issue so they changed the rating back. As far as I could understand from the interview Dave did with the Keysight rep they did do any changes to the hardware so they're all rated the same.
 
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Re: Siglent NEW Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #349 on: February 15, 2018, 01:50:36 am »
That's good to hear. That was the impression I got while reading through the thread. Glad things are back to "normal".
 
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