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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #375 on: October 25, 2018, 12:47:30 am »
Is the SDM3055 discontinued? I'm starting to see it disappear? OOS on Amazon (damn, was a good price)

https://www.tequipment.net/Siglent/SDM3055/Benchtop-Multimeter/
These items are discontinued from the TEquipment catalog and are no longer stocked at TEquipment.
 

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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #376 on: October 25, 2018, 01:05:54 am »
Is the SDM3055 discontinued? I'm starting to see it disappear? OOS on Amazon (damn, was a good price)
No, it's still a current model.
https://www.siglentamerica.com/digital-multimeters/sdm3055-5-%C2%BD-digits-dual-display-digital-multimeters/

There is sometimes confusion as it's not advertised as an X model as their release predates the X ranges of Siglent equipment. However the X model rubber bumpers are now fitted on SDM3055 so they look the same as an X model.

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https://www.tequipment.net/Siglent/SDM3055/Benchtop-Multimeter/
These items are discontinued from the TEquipment catalog and are no longer stocked at TEquipment.
Correct, TQ are no longer Siglent agents and haven't been for some time.

Saelig now offer similar discounts and have a thread where you can ask for the EEVblog member discount code.
Otherwise your closest NA dealer can be found here:
https://www.siglentamerica.com/how-to-buy/
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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #377 on: November 10, 2018, 09:19:13 pm »
Hi,
Tautech asked me to post some pictures of the 3045X internals.

So here goes:
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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #378 on: November 20, 2018, 12:36:20 am »
That's what I thought. So the sweet spot here seems to be the 3055.

Definitely.  For the price difference, I think it's worth it to step up to the 3055.

I'm looking to get my first bench DMM, and the Siglent ones look very tempting. However I'm also quite baffled by the pricing of the 3045X vs 3055. My main usage would be <20V, so as far as I can understand I'd get a lot more bang for just a few more bucks with the 3055.
 

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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #379 on: November 20, 2018, 05:48:46 am »
“Saelig now offer similar discounts and have a thread where you can ask for the EEVblog member discount code.”

Crap, I just a Siglent Function Generator and a Siglent 200Mhz Four Channel scope from them, through Amazon. I didn’t know to ask for an EEVBlog Forum discount 8-(
 

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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #380 on: March 29, 2019, 10:58:38 pm »
New firmware for SDM3065X models.

3.01.01.06R2
8.3 MB
https://www.siglentamerica.com/download/8445/

Changelog
1. Add DHCP function to IP addressing
2. Add Open Socket at LAN port 5025
3. Add over current protect function in a special case
4. Fix a crash fault when restoring settings
5. Modify the calibration arithmetic in 2-wire resistance measurement 10 MOhm range
6. Add “ABORT BULK IN” ,”INITIATE CLEAR” features to remote SCPI commands
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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #381 on: April 16, 2019, 06:54:58 pm »
Hello everybody,

I would like to share my bad experience with the SDM3065x DMM which I got today.

It is a brand new, out of the box unit and guess what...It doesn't turn on!

Actually what it does is that it loads the boot screen with the fancy Siglent logo and stays there for ever.

I have prepared a video showing the problem and I will send it to my distributor's help center first thing tomorrow morning, asking for immediate replacement.

By the way did anyone else have the same problem?

For those interested to see the video I have a low res version in this dropbox link.
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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #382 on: April 16, 2019, 07:23:28 pm »
Hello everybody,

I would like to share my bad experience with the SDM3065x DMM which I got today.

It is a brand new, out of the box unit and guess what...It doesn't turn on!

Actually what it does is that it loads the boot screen with the fancy Siglent logo and stays there for ever.

I have prepared a video showing the problem and I will send it to my distributor's help center first thing tomorrow morning, asking for immediate replacement.

By the way did anyone else have the same problem?

For those interested to see the video I have a low res version in this dropbox link.
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Oh dear that is not a good first experience.  :-//
By PM I send a link for the USB recovery package.
Unpack the ZIP file and carefully follow instructions.

Please report outcome.

Edit to add:
When recovered be sure to update the firmware to the latest version:
https://www.siglenteu.com/service-and-support/firmware-software/digital-multimeters/#sdm3065x-series
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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #383 on: April 16, 2019, 07:58:18 pm »
tautech thank you very much for your help and for your fast response.

It works!!!

I was aware of the new version so I have already done this update to the latest FW.
 

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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #384 on: April 16, 2019, 08:12:16 pm »
tautech thank you very much for your help and for your fast response.

It works!!!

I was aware of the new version so I have already done this update to the latest FW.
Great !  :clap:

I think it should give no further issues. Enjoy.  :)
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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #385 on: April 16, 2019, 08:17:06 pm »
Hello,
I have a SDM3055 and Im very happy with it.
I bought it before Siglent release the SDM3065X.
I also have a SDG2082X.....It is so stupid but I have on the SDM3055 the old model bumpers.
Is it possible to buy and change the old bumpers by the ones from the model X ?

It will look nicer on my bench  8)

I will buy in the next few weeks a SVA1015X from Batronix, maybe with the help of Siglent, il will be possible to add those bumpers in the package ?

I also have a SDS2204X so I am unintentionally a siglent guy  ;D
 

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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #386 on: April 16, 2019, 09:48:38 pm »
Hello,
I have a SDM3055 and Im very happy with it.
I bought it before Siglent release the SDM3065X.
I also have a SDG2082X.....It is so stupid but I have on the SDM3055 the old model bumpers.
Is it possible to buy and change the old bumpers by the ones from the model X ?
Yes early SDS3055 did not have the X model bumpers but they all have them now.  :)
Siglent have not changed the SDM3055 model name to 3055X to avoid confusion.

You will need to have your supplier order the X model bumpers for you.
They should not be very expensive .......a replacement tilting bail handle I got that fits all SDM and SDG models was only a few $.
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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #387 on: April 17, 2019, 10:17:34 am »
Thank you for your answer, I will ask them :)
 

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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #388 on: April 24, 2019, 08:25:55 am »
Hello,
I have a SDM3055 and Im very happy with it.
I bought it before Siglent release the SDM3065X.
I also have a SDG2082X.....It is so stupid but I have on the SDM3055 the old model bumpers.
Is it possible to buy and change the old bumpers by the ones from the model X ?

It will look nicer on my bench  8)

I will buy in the next few weeks a SVA1015X from Batronix, maybe with the help of Siglent, il will be possible to add those bumpers in the package ?

I also have a SDS2204X so I am unintentionally a siglent guy  ;D
I have been in contact with Siglent Europe about your request and think the answer might be of public interest:

According to the information from the Siglent factory in Shenzhen, the new X-series bumpers do not fit the old SDM3055 models.

Siglent Europe would have been glad to help you with this, but unfortuantely it won't work.
 
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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #389 on: April 24, 2019, 11:55:32 pm »
I have an SDM3065X. And an SDG2042.

If Siglent were a normal company they would have rack mounting hardware such that my meters could be mounted side-by-side, using a total of 2U. Not so, SDG-RMK is not of this world, it's the freak show of rackmounting kits. What is it whith chinese design, or rather the lack of it? Like the new Rigol SG:s, or ... SDG-RMK.

Also, calibration documentation for SDM3065X will be finished by June ... 2035.
 

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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #390 on: May 14, 2019, 07:15:19 pm »
SDM3065X Service manuals are available from the Siglent websites now.

For adjustment of these models please study the appropriate section carefully for the equipment and software requirements.
The equipment listed as required is:
Calibrator: FLUKE 5522A
High precision digital multimeter:HP3458A
Computer: Windows system

Software
Python
Microsoft Office 2007 or higher
NI-VISA
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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #391 on: June 02, 2019, 10:37:54 am »
tautech thank you very much for your help and for your fast response.

It works!!!

I was aware of the new version so I have already done this update to the latest FW.

I’m late to this thread - just happened to be reading up on graphing DMMs....

Wow - Impressive recovery capability in the Siglent design and very impressive support by tautech!
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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #392 on: June 04, 2019, 08:06:51 am »
I have an SDM3065X. And an SDG2042.

If Siglent were a normal company they would have rack mounting hardware such that my meters could be mounted side-by-side, using a total of 2U. Not so, SDG-RMK is not of this world, it's the freak show of rackmounting kits. What is it whith chinese design, or rather the lack of it? Like the new Rigol SG:s, or ... SDG-RMK.
I asked about dual rack mounts a few weeks back and forgot to post about them.......they're coming !
Dunno any time frames but suggest you keep a watch on Siglent websites for them.
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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #393 on: June 18, 2019, 04:01:59 pm »
Some questions about SDM3045X statistics, specifically the min/max function and memory depth.

See photo; I am doing long term (several days) monitoring of a DC voltage.  When the photo was taken I was at over one million samples and everything seemed to be working fine (ignore the ghosting in the displayed value - it's just normal flicker versus camera exposure time).

Questions:
1- What is the sample rate?  It is clearly several times per second but I can't find an actual specification in the documentation.
2- What is the maximum number of samples possible before I run out of memory?  Again, can't find this in the specs.
3- What happens when I run out of memory?  Does it flush the stored data and start over, or just stop running, or what?

Thanks for any insight you can provide.
 

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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #394 on: June 18, 2019, 05:21:26 pm »
1 - The sample rate is set by the Speed softkey (2nd softkey after pressing DCV button).  For the 3045X three  reading  rates  are  available  for  DCV,  ACV,  DCI,  ACI and  -Wire/4-Wire Resistance: “Slow”, “Middle” and “Fast”:

There is a linkage for both reading resolution and reading (measurement) rate.
5 reading/s and 50 reading/s belongs to 4.5 digit resolution.
150 reading/s belong to 3.5 digit resolution.
The  reading  resolution  of Temperature is  fixed  at 4.5  digit  and “Fast” respectively.
The  reading  resolutions  and  measurement  rates  of  both  Diode  and Continuity are fixed at 4.5 digit and “Fast” respectively.
The  reading  resolution  and  measurement  rate  of  the  Frequency function are fixed 4.5 digit and “Slow” respectively.
The reading resolution and measurement rate of the Capacitance function are fixed at 3.5 digit and “Slow” respectively.

2 - According to the manual, the sample field for triggering has a limit of 599999999.  So that's my guess for max samples.
3 - Don't know what happens when it reaches the limit; it probably starts at 0.
 
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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #395 on: June 18, 2019, 05:26:26 pm »
What's the difference between the DMMs on a schematic level? Like, do they use different references, ADC, etc?

Is there any measurements of noise (not acoustic noise, but measurement noise) and stability?
 

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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #396 on: June 18, 2019, 07:08:45 pm »
What's the difference between the DMMs on a schematic level? Like, do they use different references, ADC, etc?
SDM3045X and 3055 are very similar and the jury is still out as to they might be the same excepting displayed digits.
However they each use different firmware which might indicate there are internal differences.
There's PCB pics of each model earlier in this thread.
SDM3065X is different and uses the LM399 Vref.
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Is there any measurements of noise (not acoustic noise, but measurement noise) and stability?
Compare the datasheets.  ;)
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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #397 on: June 19, 2019, 10:47:48 am »
Compare the datasheets.  ;)

Datasheets don't tell the whole story ;).

Nice units, too bad SDM3065X costs too close to DMM6500 :(. Although, the latter is too big to fit my bench... Dilemma.
 

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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #398 on: June 19, 2019, 11:11:06 am »
Nice units, too bad SDM3065X costs too close to DMM6500 :(. Although, the latter is too big to fit my bench... Dilemma.

Here in the US its $729 vs $1095, that's 50% more expensive. 
 

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Re: Siglent Bench DMMs SDM3065X, SDM3055 and SDM3045X
« Reply #399 on: June 19, 2019, 11:32:11 am »
Here in the US its $729 vs $1095, that's 50% more expensive. 

In EU it's like 820euro  vs ~1030, which is ~27%. Significant difference, but not that important to me. I also trust Tek a little bit more, they even specify 2year cal specs.
 


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