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| tv84:
Gentlemen, as long as there is no price for western markets, any comparison is nonsense. "Ah, but I can buy it online in China and send it over..." Sure but, bypassing the legal matters, then at least you must add the S/H and VAT. |
| Mechatrommer:
earlier: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-just-drop-its-mic-new-sds800hd-12bit-scope-crazy-price-leaked/msg5210769/#msg5210769 now (tax included?): https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-new-sds800x-hd-first-bactch-unboxing-and-noise-compare-with-dho800/msg5249739/#msg5249739 |
| Performa01:
--- Quote from: tszaboo on December 31, 2023, 08:46:30 am ---It's a 100MHz scope for 3000 EUR. Rigol has the DHO4204 twice the speed for the same price. --- End quote --- That’s about the only valid comparison. Yes, you currently can save a little money with the DHO - if you don’t value useful FFT and Bode Plot. --- Quote from: tszaboo on December 31, 2023, 08:46:30 am ---Certiprime MSOX2024A will get you twice the speed and logic probe for less. --- End quote --- So you’re throwing in a used 8 bit(!) entry level scope, limited to 200 MHz max. with short memory, heavily decimated measurements and short FFT, without 50 ohm inputs, with poor sensitivity (everything below 4 mV/div is just fake) and only 5 digits frequency counter, that lacks history mode and where even basic features like mask testing, segmented memory or basic decoders are (expensive) options? Seriously? --- Quote from: tszaboo on December 31, 2023, 08:46:30 am ---PicoScope 5444D with up to 16 bits, Wavegen, LA for the same price. --- End quote --- The picoscope is something completely different. It has no power supply, no front panel and no screen and requires some computer to be operated. It is unique in having some mid-range or even high-end features, yet it also has some major drawbacks at the same time, like the lack of intensity/color-grading (the dedicated persistence mode isn’t a viable substitute), lack of 50 ohm inputs, limited measurement statistics and history count, and last not least the intransparent and inflexible acquisition (you have absolutely no control) – just the price you pay for an USB scope. The resolution enhancement, even though it’s a hardware feature, cannot compete with the real thing, like any true 12 bit scope from the 4000A series. You cannot have full resolution/full sample rate at the same time and the actual dynamic range is nowhere near what could be expected from a high-definition scope. The digital channels are just a bunch of short wires with a female single pin plug, only usable with small circuits that can be placed very close to the scope. Hardly comparable to a professional solution like the Siglent SPL2016. --- Quote from: tszaboo on December 31, 2023, 08:46:30 am ---You can spin this all you want, but it's not a good price for a crippled 100MHz Chinese scope, with expensive options. --- End quote --- Yes, you can spin this all you want, but up to recently there just was no competition to the SDS2000X HD. Now the DHO4000 could be, but there’s more to that than just some banner specs. |
| voltsandjolts:
Picoscope 5K are excellent versatile tools, but I mostly agree about the limitations you mention, except perhaps... --- Quote from: Performa01 on December 31, 2023, 12:14:53 pm ---limited measurement statistics and history count --- End quote --- Picoscope 7 software example: ..and I don't understand your reasoning for this statement: --- Quote ---and the actual dynamic range is nowhere near what could be expected from a high-definition scope. --- End quote --- |
| GnomeZA:
--- Quote from: tv84 on December 31, 2023, 11:23:09 am ---"Ah, but I can buy it online in China and send it over..." Sure but, bypassing the legal matters --- End quote --- What legal matters? |
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