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Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade hack/unlock (SOLVED)
« on: July 28, 2018, 07:01:56 pm »
Has anyone with a Siglent SDG5000 series or SHS800 series done a BW upgrade on them?


Edit: Added the SHS800 SCPI commands list. (something that Siglent says they don't have...)
« Last Edit: September 28, 2019, 08:38:24 pm by tv84 »
 
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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade search?
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2018, 10:07:35 pm »
No pain, no gain...  ;)

My big thanks to the volunteers who accepted the challenge.

It's perfectly possible to upgrade these equipments.

The SHS800 series (804, 806, 810 and 815) behave as a SDS1000CML. If you run a SCPI command "MD5_PR?" they will report the product_type "SDS1000CML".

So, I guess looking at the FW, the SHS820 series (820, others?) behave as a SDS1000CNL. Anyone with a SHS820 can confirm this doing the "MD5_PR?".

(And that validates the HWs are really different beteween the 2 series and their corresponding FWs.)

But if that is the case, and since the FW has references to the SHS830 model, maybe it's perfectly possible to upgrade a SHS820 to a SHS830 (300 MHz).

The results so far, are attached.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2018, 09:50:39 am by tv84 »
 
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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade search?
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2018, 11:22:43 pm »
Nice work, tv84!  :clap:
 

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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade search?
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2018, 08:58:53 pm »
BTW, can't understand how Siglent says that SHS800 (and almost certainly the SHS1000) "don't support SCPI commands"!?!?!!!   :o :o

https://www.siglentamerica.com/operating-tip/siglent-products-support-scpi/

https://www.siglentamerica.com/operating-tip/siglent-products-support-scpi/?pdf=1293

Among other commands, this was received from a SHS806:

>>>*IDN?
*IDN SIGLENT,SHS806,SHS08Dxxxxxxxx,5.09.01.05
>>>MD5_SRLN?
SHS08Dxxxxxxxx
>>>MD5_PR?
SDS1000CML
>>>MD5_CMPY?
SIGLENT

I swear I didn't implement them!!   :-DD
 

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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade hack/unlock (SOLVED)
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2019, 09:58:57 am »
Interested as to how this was done on a SHS as there's only USB and a micro USB I/O's to work with.  :-//
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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade hack/unlock (SOLVED)
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2019, 10:08:36 am »
Interested as to how this was done on a SHS as there's only USB and a micro USB I/O's to work with.  :-//

If those are the only holes, then for sure it was through one of them... :)  (read my previous msg)

Opening the case it's not a pretty option.
 

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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade hack/unlock (SOLVED)
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2019, 10:15:04 am »
Interested as to how this was done on a SHS as there's only USB and a micro USB I/O's to work with.  :-//

If those are the only holes, then for sure it was through one of them... :)  (read my previous msg)

Opening the case it's not a pretty option.
Ah, OK, micro USB to RJ45 cable ?

Shame I don't now have one to play with.  :(
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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade hack/unlock (SOLVED)
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2019, 10:20:19 am »
Shame I don't now have one to play with.  :(

Shame! Let's make a deal: a 806 for your SDS5K ?   :-DD
 

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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade hack/unlock (SOLVED)
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2019, 10:30:26 am »
Shame I don't now have one to play with.  :(

Shame! Let's make a deal: a 806 for your SDS5K ?   :-DD
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Got a dead 806 PCB set from a repair so I can see the I/O's and the juicy Jtag header.
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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade hack/unlock (SOLVED)
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2019, 05:20:41 pm »
Hello,

Can someone kindly post more specific instructions on how I could increase the bandwidth of my SHS806 to that of the SHS815.Reading through this thread, tv84 has shown its possible to do.

I have done a bit of playing about, with Siglent’s EASYSCOPEX I can send SCPI commands to the SHS806.  Using trial and error I managed to be able to change the serial number of the unit with the :SRLN <serial number> command which the unit will recognize as verified when checked with the System Status.

The serial number for the SHS806 has the format SHS06DAQ1RXXXX.  If someone can tell me the format of the SHS815 serial number please, maybe if I change specific characters to the correct letter, then upon boot up the firmware will hopefully recognize it as an SHS815.  I can not figure out how to change the System Status (Firmware) to recognize my SHS806 as a SHS815 Product Type.

Anyways, would appreciate some help.  I am quite inexperienced with SCPI and using terminal etc, so pls be quite explicit.

Thanks

Len
 

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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade hack/unlock (SOLVED)
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2019, 08:41:06 pm »
To change BW you need to use the MCBD command. And for that you need the BW license.

You can't change BW just by playing with the S/N.

You can play with the SCPI commands that the equipment supports (see the list in the 1st msg of the thread).
 
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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade hack/unlock (SOLVED)
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2020, 11:10:36 pm »
Reports as a SDG5162, but only goes to 100MHz; not sure why.  I will probably put it back to a SDG5082. If the problem persists that I am having with it, as I will sent it to Siglent (for which I am guessing is an SPCI issue which they will not duplicate of fix).
 

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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade hack/unlock (SOLVED)
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2020, 02:11:46 am »
Reports as a SDG5162, but only goes to 100MHz; not sure why.  I will probably put it back to a SDG5082. If the problem persists that I am having with it, as I will sent it to Siglent (for which I am guessing is an SPCI issue which they will not duplicate of fix).
Check datasheet output amplitude spec.  ;)
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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade hack/unlock (SOLVED)
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2020, 08:52:40 am »
Anyone has a SHS820 and wants to try upgrade it to 300MHz?
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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade hack/unlock (SOLVED)
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2021, 12:18:50 pm »
I've a "poor" SHS806 (older HW revision than tv84) and was reading this interesting post.
Not sure if the update can be done only with SCPI commands and where to find BW license or maybe through a modified .cfg file.  :-//
Do I need a microUSB to RJ45 adapter (expert user tautech was mentioning above) to have access to the device through telnet or is it enough to connect with USBTMC interface? |O

Hope some expert user can help me! Thanks in advance!

BTW: I've noticed there is a "new" firmware release 5.09.01.07 from march 2020.
 

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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade hack/unlock (SOLVED)
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2021, 05:32:24 pm »
With the precious help of tv84 I was able to upgrade my SHS806 to 150MHz. :-+
I did some pictures of a sine wave at 100 and 120MHz.

I am impressed of the knowledge of tv84 about the firmware of this instrument (and others, of course). Chapeau!!!
 
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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade hack/unlock (SOLVED)
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2021, 10:36:02 am »
Hi how you have done this ?

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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade hack/unlock (SOLVED)
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2021, 07:28:22 pm »
I also have a SHS806 and it would be great to have a guide o how to "upgrade it".

Thanks!
 

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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade hack/unlock (SOLVED)
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2021, 08:32:21 pm »
Same here.. I own a SHS806 and would be glad to get some additional hints how to upgrade it.

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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade hack/unlock (SOLVED)
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2021, 12:49:45 pm »
Due to several family requests here is the patched FW.

1. Before Patch
*IDN? => *IDN SIGLENT,SHS806,S/N,5.09.01.07

2. Right after patch and reboot
*IDN? => *IDN SIGLENT,SHS804,S/N,5.09.01.07

3. Send the SCPI command
MCBD xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

4. After command and reboot
*IDN? => *IDN SIGLENT,SHS815,S/N,5.09.01.07

Attached is the FW that allows Siglent SHS80x to go to 150MHz.

You just have to search the forum for the generator that allows you to fill the xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
 
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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade hack/unlock (SOLVED)
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2021, 12:16:37 pm »
Please help, I have a SHS806, I am making a mistake somewhere and I don't know where  :-//. I installed version *IDN SIGLENT,SHS804,SHS08DAC1L1114,5. 09. 01. 07. Now I am trying to generate the MCBD value but I am unable to read the SCOPEID. SCOPEID command? returns the error "Failed to read or write comands!" I am also not sure if I am selecting the Model correctly in the generator script (SDS1000CML)
 

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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade hack/unlock (SOLVED)
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2021, 02:43:29 pm »
Now I am trying to generate the MCBD value but I am unable to read the SCOPEID.

Use S/N.
 
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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade hack/unlock (SOLVED)
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2021, 05:11:51 pm »
How can I mod the firmware for the SHS1000?
 

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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade hack/unlock (SOLVED)
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2021, 06:57:04 pm »
How can I mod the firmware for the SHS1000?

I never did it. Maybe one of these days...  I think you are the only owner in the world!  :)
 

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Re: Siglent SDG5000 / SHS800 - upgrade hack/unlock (SOLVED)
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2021, 12:27:06 am »
A complete success, congratulations on your knowledge and thank you for your help.  :clap:
 


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