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Offline JanL

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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #475 on: November 30, 2023, 03:20:29 pm »
Hello there, I stumbled across the SDG6022X as an signal generator for a reasonable price. Looking at the data sheet I am missing information about rise/fall times for different output voltages. Does anybody know what times to expect for 5, 10, 20V outputs?
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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #476 on: November 30, 2023, 04:36:47 pm »
I only have SDG6052X here, but this shouldn’t make any difference:

Firstly, I won’t be able to show you the rise time at 20 Vpp, because this instrument, like any other AWG in this class, can only output 10 Vpp into a 50 ohm load. There’s certainly no way to get a fast pulse with single digit nanosecond risetime into a high-Z input without significant degradation. So we have to stick to 50 ohms.

The fastest specified rise-time of the SDG6000X is 2 ns. At least my specimen is a little faster and manages to stay below 1.7 ns at 5 Vpp:


SDG6052X_5Vpp_T2ns

For 10 Vpp it was a bit of a hassle already, because that level is too high for a 50 ohm DSO input. I had to fit a 6 dB inline attenuator and consequently you’ll still see only a 5 Vpp pulse in the screenshot. But it is 10 Vpp originally – you can also see that the rise time got quite a bit slower now (~2.3 ns).


SDG6052X_10Vpp_T2ns_A6dB

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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #477 on: December 01, 2023, 08:03:50 am »
Thank you very much. It helps a lot with my decision.
 

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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #478 on: May 16, 2024, 06:46:42 pm »
Attached is an example for the SDG6052X after a power loss.

It was set to a 100 Hz, 1 Vpp sine wave.
Utility – System – PowerOn was set to “Last”.
Utility – Output Setup – Power On State was set to “On”
Utility – Output Setup – Amplitude was set to 20.000 Vpp, i.e. no limit set.

That’s how a well behaved AWG handles mains power outage and -return.


SDG6052X Sine_100Hz_1Vpp_Power Loss
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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #479 on: May 16, 2024, 07:02:49 pm »
What I ask myself all the time is whether the "gap" between SDG2000 and SDG6000 will ever be filled....


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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #480 on: May 16, 2024, 07:25:25 pm »
Was this measured with peak-detect enabled? At 4Ms/s it is easy to lose a spike.
There are small lies, big lies and then there is what is on the screen of your oscilloscope.
 

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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #481 on: May 16, 2024, 08:34:20 pm »
Was this measured with peak-detect enabled? At 4Ms/s it is easy to lose a spike.
There is no spike. Simple as that.
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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #482 on: May 16, 2024, 08:51:36 pm »
Was this measured with peak-detect enabled? At 4Ms/s it is easy to lose a spike.
There is no spike. Simple as that.
The scope screenshot doesn't show that information so if you have no useful information to add, it is better to wait for Tautech to acknowledge he enabled peak-detect in order to do this kind of measurement correctly or to redo the measurement with peak-detect enabled and show a new screenshot.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2024, 08:55:30 pm by nctnico »
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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #483 on: May 16, 2024, 09:11:38 pm »
Was this measured with peak-detect enabled? At 4Ms/s it is easy to lose a spike.
There is no spike. Simple as that.
The scope screenshot doesn't show that information so if you have no useful information to add, it is better to wait for Tautech to acknowledge he enabled peak-detect in order to do this kind of measurement correctly or to redo the measurement with peak-detect enabled and show a new screenshot.

You just have to be condescending aren't you?

I MEASURED. There is no spike. With Peak detect, without, with different scopes.
I have that AWG for 3+ years...
I would not post that if I didn't have veritable information and was sure...
Haven't you learn that by now?
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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #484 on: May 16, 2024, 10:15:16 pm »
It's a trivial case that every dealer can show. But the fact that it is able to keep the zero offset does not prove that it is also able to preserve a user-defined DC offset (i.e. the logic levels). While the latter is obviously of more importance
 
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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #485 on: May 16, 2024, 10:25:31 pm »
Was this measured with peak-detect enabled? At 4Ms/s it is easy to lose a spike.
There is no spike. Simple as that.
The scope screenshot doesn't show that information so if you have no useful information to add, it is better to wait for Tautech to acknowledge he enabled peak-detect in order to do this kind of measurement correctly or to redo the measurement with peak-detect enabled and show a new screenshot.
:-//
Not my screenshot above.

However I might have done it a little different using a Normal Trigger waiting for the signal to return after power ON.
But not today, too much to arrange for EMEX the week after next.....
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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #486 on: May 16, 2024, 10:38:26 pm »
Was this measured with peak-detect enabled? At 4Ms/s it is easy to lose a spike.
There is no spike. Simple as that.
The scope screenshot doesn't show that information so if you have no useful information to add, it is better to wait for Tautech to acknowledge he enabled peak-detect in order to do this kind of measurement correctly or to redo the measurement with peak-detect enabled and show a new screenshot.

You just have to be condescending aren't you?

I MEASURED. There is no spike. With Peak detect, without, with different scopes.
Well, you should have written that to make your point clear to everyone. That is useful information.
There are small lies, big lies and then there is what is on the screen of your oscilloscope.
 
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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #487 on: October 22, 2024, 06:33:56 am »
I‘m going to change my SDS 2000 against a 6000.
Some questions to the experts:
The liberation process is still the same as described in Message 241?
And the ADS file also works for the last firmware?
The public key gen doesn‘t work for the 6000 series?
Thanks for your help!

Edit:
Sorry: SDG6000 (Maybe I have to much Siglent gear on my bench) 
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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #488 on: October 22, 2024, 08:46:38 am »
I would be interested in that too, for the same reason. ;)

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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #489 on: October 22, 2024, 07:56:06 pm »
I‘m going to change my SDS 2000 against a 6000.
Are you interested in SDS (scope) or SDG (wave gen)? Main topic was on SDG.
 

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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #490 on: October 23, 2024, 06:36:58 am »
I‘m going to change my SDS 2000 against a 6000.
Are you interested in SDS (scope) or SDG (wave gen)? Main topic was on SDG.

Sorry my mistake: I asked for the SDG6000 liberation process. The related postings are 4 years old.

Edit: It seems that the script

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds-sdg-hack-script/msg4578985/#msg4578985

still works.
Now I ordered a SDG6000 and will report.
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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #491 on: October 30, 2024, 03:23:16 pm »
I got in the mean time my new SDG6022x and can confirm that the script

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/unified-keygen-script-for-siglent/msg5554039/#msg5554039

still works. As always the job was done with Putty.
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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #492 on: November 01, 2024, 10:04:04 pm »
I will be able to test it soon, my SDG6022X is already on its way (and my SDG2122X is advertising). 8)
 
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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #493 on: November 02, 2024, 12:33:46 am »
I will be able to test it soon, my SDG6022X is already on its way (and my SDG2122X is advertising). 8)
I'll be waiting impatiently for your test results. I also want to upgrade my SDG2122X to SDG6052 if this turns out to be possible  :D.
 

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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #494 on: November 02, 2024, 02:03:13 pm »
Hm?  ;)
By “advertised” I meant it is for sale.
From a purely visual point of view, one could actually believe that the two model series are very similar.
The SDG6022X just arrived, although it was only ordered yesterday – Batronix is just as fast as lightning...
 
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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #495 on: November 02, 2024, 05:45:16 pm »
The script also works with my SDG6022X, and the IQ license is now forever. ;)
I have not yet increased the bandwidth, because:
What about the calibration? Won't that be accurate anymore?
 
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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #496 on: November 02, 2024, 06:09:55 pm »
The script also works with my SDG6022X, and the IQ license is now forever. ;)
I have not yet increased the bandwidth, because:
What about the calibration? Won't that be accurate anymore?
::)
Is it not just as easy to improve BW as it is to reduce/return it back to stock ?
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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #497 on: November 02, 2024, 06:34:02 pm »
Hello everyone,

yesterday I upgraded the SDG6022x to the SDG6052x. worked perfectly. Today I took a few measurements as usual. I'll post that tomorrow.

The IQ license is also generated?  Where can I find them?

Best regards
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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #498 on: November 02, 2024, 06:35:03 pm »
Rob, that's actually true. ;)
 
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Re: Siglent SDG6000X series 200-500 MHz AWG's
« Reply #499 on: November 02, 2024, 06:37:47 pm »
The IQ license is also generated?  Where can I find them?

Look for "TRUE" in the key list(it´s separate from the bandwithkeys).
 
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