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Re: Choosing between entry-level 12-bit DSOs
« Reply #1050 on: January 18, 2025, 09:41:23 am »
If you put all 4 channels on and decoding and other stuff, and apply some more complex signals that overlap more randomly, you get a rainbow where you don't know what is part of what.
I am wondering why you are always exaggerating things. An option for this would already help, when there are only 2 traces! No need to exaggerate here. And if you cant understand its usefulness, does not mean its useless.

Funny for you to say that.
You are the one always exaggerating everything.
I used as an example one of your screen shots, where you say you can't see it right.
With traces transparent, in that same situation you would see something but understand even less..

And I understand what it does. And I said that I don't mind it as long as you can set it to show like all other scopes.
Fact that nobody does it that way is either everybody in industry making scopes is stupid, or maybe it is mature industry where after years and years of experimenting, one way to display traces was settled down as optimal.

But if you like it so much, maybe switch back to Rigol DHO if they are only ones providing that, to you critical, function.
Go at it buddy.

Make note that two people that thanked you are one strong Rigol advocate and a guy that created alternative FW because Rigol GUI is apparently hated even by people that own it, and users have to fix dozens of (real) bugs that are still there after more than 2 years platform was released.
And yes he is selling that FW.. Which by itself is OK by me. He should be paid for his work. But obviously there is a conflict of interest, when taking advice and sides..
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Re: Choosing between entry-level 12-bit DSOs
« Reply #1051 on: January 19, 2025, 03:35:13 pm »
you would see something but understand even less..

And I understand what it does...
 :blah: :blah: :blah:
So much words, but you havent answered my request in the other topic about your accusations.  ::)

BTW:
I dont care about "thanks". There are other things that i care about, that are worth much more...

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Re: Choosing between entry-level 12-bit DSOs
« Reply #1052 on: January 19, 2025, 04:35:00 pm »

 :blah: :blah: :blah: ??

What are you, four years old?

I am not on trial here and won't play your stupid games.
It is all in the plain site..
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Re: Choosing between entry-level 12-bit DSOs
« Reply #1053 on: January 20, 2025, 12:19:54 am »
What are you, four years old?

You're very generous!  :-DD :-DD
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Re: Choosing between entry-level 12-bit DSOs
« Reply #1054 on: January 20, 2025, 11:22:05 am »
I am not on trial here and won't play your stupid games.
It is all in the plain site..
Of course your are not, but you posted same bad accusations of me without (recent) proof.

You are very welcome to STFU to all my future posts!

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Re: Choosing between entry-level 12-bit DSOs
« Reply #1055 on: January 20, 2025, 12:04:40 pm »
You are very welcome to STFU to all my future posts!

Wouldn't that be your wet dream ......
To be able to bullshit to your heart will, unchecked........
I am afraid, no luck for you...

Make note that I DID have positive comments on SOME of your posts..
Those that weren't stupid, obnoxious and vile....
I also answered some of your good and polite questions in polite manner.

Fact that I have more negative than positive comments for your posts is more about quality of material you provide, than me..
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Re: Choosing between entry-level 12-bit DSOs
« Reply #1056 on: March 19, 2025, 04:34:35 am »
The fact that oscilloscope fanboys exist is absolutely wild. Reading this thread was a trip. I ultimately bought the rigol, because I am not entirely sure what an oscilloscope does or what I will use it for. And it was slightly cheaper on aliexpress. But watching you guys duke it out over oscilloscopes is nuts. As a beginner looking for a scope, reading this thread was embarrassing. I feel like I learned nothing other than oscilloscope fanboys are weirdly a thing.
 

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Re: Choosing between entry-level 12-bit DSOs
« Reply #1057 on: March 19, 2025, 06:15:19 am »
The fact that oscilloscope fanboys exist is absolutely wild. Reading this thread was a trip. I ultimately bought the rigol, because I am not entirely sure what an oscilloscope does or what I will use it for.
Wait! What? You bought a scope and dont know if your going to use it? Thats something i would expect a fanboy to do. There is this one guy, that bought a scope, that knew his favourite brand did not make upgrades (or at least it was very unlikely). He said he put it in the shelf and waits for an upgrade.

Why did you bought it?
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Re: Choosing between entry-level 12-bit DSOs
« Reply #1058 on: March 19, 2025, 06:22:20 am »
trying to get ahead of the tariffs. Figure at some point in the next 4 years I might need a scope.
 
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Re: Choosing between entry-level 12-bit DSOs
« Reply #1059 on: March 19, 2025, 08:35:54 am »
trying to get ahead of the tariffs. Figure at some point in the next 4 years I might need a scope.
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Re: Choosing between entry-level 12-bit DSOs
« Reply #1060 on: March 19, 2025, 10:14:36 am »
trying to get ahead of the tariffs. Figure at some point in the next 4 years I might need a scope.
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Re: Choosing between entry-level 12-bit DSOs
« Reply #1061 on: March 19, 2025, 12:35:27 pm »
I ultimately bought the rigol

Good choice!
 

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Re: Choosing between entry-level 12-bit DSOs
« Reply #1062 on: March 19, 2025, 12:40:54 pm »
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Re: Choosing between entry-level 12-bit DSOs
« Reply #1063 on: March 19, 2025, 03:47:06 pm »
The fact that oscilloscope fanboys exist is absolutely wild.

Is there something that people won't divide themselves into tribes over?
 

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Re: Choosing between entry-level 12-bit DSOs
« Reply #1064 on: March 19, 2025, 04:04:39 pm »
The fact that oscilloscope fanboys exist is absolutely wild.

Is there something that people won't divide themselves into tribes over?

No.
They will even divide into tribes about fact whether people divide into tribes naturally or not...
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Re: Choosing between entry-level 12-bit DSOs
« Reply #1065 on: March 19, 2025, 04:22:38 pm »
The fact that oscilloscope fanboys exist is absolutely wild.

Is there something that people won't divide themselves into tribes over?

No.
They will even divide into tribes about fact whether people divide into tribes naturally or not...
I wonder... are Rigol fans typically Android and Siglent fans Apple?  :-DD
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Re: Choosing between entry-level 12-bit DSOs
« Reply #1066 on: March 19, 2025, 05:24:05 pm »
trying to get ahead of the tariffs. Figure at some point in the next 4 years I might need a scope.
:-DD
It's nice that you can take what he said with a laugh but getting ahead of price increases is a thing. Just today some political events took place here and our currency lost 10% against USD and EUR on the spot. Quite expectedly, the prices on authorized dealers jumped up as well.[1]

The only thing I don't understand here is the "I am not entirely sure what an oscilloscope does" part of the remark. Why would one buy something where he doesn't know what it is for? I perfectly understand that one might not know in advance what exact equipment may be best for a prospective project but that part of the comment beats me.

[1] It has been reported that to curb the exchange ratio, "financial institutions" are selling USD. The latest tally was about 8 billion USD sold in a few hours. Now the jump has been reduced to about 5%.

In the old times, the primary "financial institution" selling the foreign currency was actually named in the news articles (i.e. "central bank") but the name and the practice has been under public scrutiny for a long time so it seems the news is now being reported in a veiled fashion.
 

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Re: Choosing between entry-level 12-bit DSOs
« Reply #1067 on: March 19, 2025, 08:14:27 pm »
The fact that oscilloscope fanboys exist is absolutely wild.

Is there something that people won't divide themselves into tribes over?

No.
They will even divide into tribes about fact whether people divide into tribes naturally or not...

I completely disagree that people will divide into tribes over whether people divide into tribes naturally or not, and declare you to be "the other" because you hold such a ridiculous view.

Oh, wait ... did I just demonstrate the truth of what I was denying? Well, shoot. Never mind ...

:):):)

(Hopefully it is clear that all of the above was intended to be funny. Of course, every time I think I have been witty, my wife says I only half succeeded ...)
 

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Re: Choosing between entry-level 12-bit DSOs
« Reply #1068 on: March 19, 2025, 08:23:23 pm »
(Hopefully it is clear that all of the above was intended to be funny. Of course, every time I think I have been witty, my wife says I only half succeeded ...)

That didn't appear funny at all! I have to agree with your wife on this one. 😉😉
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Re: Choosing between entry-level 12-bit DSOs
« Reply #1069 on: March 20, 2025, 06:28:33 pm »
(Hopefully it is clear that all of the above was intended to be funny. Of course, every time I think I have been witty, my wife says I only half succeeded ...)

That didn't appear funny at all! I have to agree with your wife on this one. 😉😉

I am deeply hurt, so much so that I probably won't be able to get any more work done today as a result, and will need to go home and play with conduct serious and meaningful experiments with my oscilloscope in an effort to recover. Of course, it may take me several days to recover. I'm sure my boss will understand ... right??

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Re: Choosing between entry-level 12-bit DSOs
« Reply #1070 on: March 20, 2025, 08:21:39 pm »
I'm sure my boss will understand ... right??

That depends...you mean your wife, right? 😉
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Re: Choosing between entry-level 12-bit DSOs
« Reply #1071 on: March 21, 2025, 02:02:21 am »
That depends...you mean your wife, right? 😉

They are wired not to understand!  :palm:

Even if we agree to the pottery.  :-//
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