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asmi:

--- Quote from: 2N3055 on October 29, 2023, 08:52:06 pm ---No we don't have to be complete shills.
All you need is to be able to read datasheets.
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Yes you are.


--- Quote from: 2N3055 on October 29, 2023, 08:52:06 pm ---Siglent was first manufacturer that started giving avay serial decoders for free years ago. Made Keysight and R&S really unhappy.
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So what?


--- Quote from: 2N3055 on October 29, 2023, 08:52:06 pm ---If you are comparing SDS2000X HD and DHO4000, SDS2000X HD gives one protocol more for free (LIN) and has 2 more optional protocols to choose from (SENT and MANCHESTER)..
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Those are useless for me, unlike I2S, which Siglent doesn't give (but DHO4000 does).


--- Quote from: 2N3055 on October 29, 2023, 08:52:06 pm ---DHO4000 has about 50-60% of analytic capability of SDS2000X HD. Just the difference in implementation of math channels is huge. And many more features. DHO4000 has edge only in fact that it's fastest version goes to quite high frequencies. It seems to be good scope. But not even close in measurement capabilities.
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Don't care about fluff and paper features which I will never use anyway - I'm only interested in the main functionality. Analog bandwidth is the most important thing for me, with occasional serial decodes (but I'm hopefully going to buy an LA for that, so that won't be as important either). That's what I use the scope for. Everything else is not important.


--- Quote from: 2N3055 on October 29, 2023, 08:52:06 pm ---For people that just want 12bit scope big screen, active probes etc but not advanced math it would be decent choice.
But generally you don't buy 12 bit scope to just use it as CRT analog scope. You don't need that analog performance to not use that info.
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Yes I do. I don't care for "advanced math" (whatever it is). As long as I can export data points to PC, it will trash whatever "advanced math" features scope has without even breaking a sweat.


--- Quote from: 2N3055 on October 29, 2023, 08:52:06 pm ---And that is where DHO4000 fails short. Close but no cigar.

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I don't see it yet. But fierce shilling from Siglent makes me strongly suspect otherwise - because good product generally doesn't need any shilling as it sells itself. So far I only see 2000HD praised by confirmed or suspected shills, but very little in the way or actual normal users.
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tautech:

--- Quote from: asmi on October 29, 2023, 10:04:29 pm ---
And I guess we've now established that tautech's post about pricing was a lie :palm: So lame - all it takes is a single glance on the website...

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Sorry, an honest error.
100 MHz vs 200 MHz pricing

I'll have a SDS2104X HD in ~10 days then I can test its -3dB point to see how it might compare with any 200 MHz model.
SDS2104X Plus was ~185 MHz and SDS2204X Plus was 300 MHz from recent tests....done with 2 sources as double confirmation.

Martin72:

--- Quote ---So far I only see 2000HD praised by confirmed or suspected shills, but very little in the way or actual normal users.
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The same applies to dho4000 buyers.
But the posts in the threads of the dho 800 scopes just "explode".
Guess why...

2N3055:

--- Quote from: asmi on October 29, 2023, 10:04:29 pm ---
--- Quote from: 2N3055 on October 29, 2023, 08:52:06 pm ---No we don't have to be complete shills.
All you need is to be able to read datasheets.
--- End quote ---
Yes you are.


--- Quote from: 2N3055 on October 29, 2023, 08:52:06 pm ---Siglent was first manufacturer that started giving avay serial decoders for free years ago. Made Keysight and R&S really unhappy.
--- End quote ---
So what?


--- Quote from: 2N3055 on October 29, 2023, 08:52:06 pm ---If you are comparing SDS2000X HD and DHO4000, SDS2000X HD gives one protocol more for free (LIN) and has 2 more optional protocols to choose from (SENT and MANCHESTER)..
--- End quote ---
Those are useless for me, unlike I2S, which Siglent doesn't give (but DHO4000 does).


--- Quote from: 2N3055 on October 29, 2023, 08:52:06 pm ---DHO4000 has about 50-60% of analytic capability of SDS2000X HD. Just the difference in implementation of math channels is huge. And many more features. DHO4000 has edge only in fact that it's fastest version goes to quite high frequencies. It seems to be good scope. But not even close in measurement capabilities.
--- End quote ---
Don't care about fluff and paper features which I will never use anyway - I'm only interested in the main functionality. Analog bandwidth is the most important thing for me, with occasional serial decodes (but I'm hopefully going to buy an LA for that, so that won't be as important either). That's what I use the scope for. Everything else is not important.


--- Quote from: 2N3055 on October 29, 2023, 08:52:06 pm ---For people that just want 12bit scope big screen, active probes etc but not advanced math it would be decent choice.
But generally you don't buy 12 bit scope to just use it as CRT analog scope. You don't need that analog performance to not use that info.
--- End quote ---
Yes I do. I don't care for "advanced math" (whatever it is). As long as I can export data points to PC, it will trash whatever "advanced math" features scope has without even breaking a sweat.


--- Quote from: 2N3055 on October 29, 2023, 08:52:06 pm ---And that is where DHO4000 fails short. Close but no cigar.

--- End quote ---
I don't see it yet. But fierce shilling from Siglent makes me strongly suspect otherwise - because good product generally doesn't need any shilling as it sells itself. So far I only see 2000HD praised by confirmed or suspected shills, but very little in the way or actual normal users.
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And I guess we've now established that tautech's post about pricing was a lie :palm: So lame - all it takes is a single glance on the website...

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You are rude and abrasive. And don't care much for facts and won't let the facts stand in a way of good insult.

Rigol has one less protocol for free. If there is a sales promotion where they give you a bundle good for you. Siglent has those too. They come and go. Basic options are there in datasheet. Go and read.

I also said that if you don't need advanced scope but something simple with 12 bit and larger screen that then DHO4000 will serve you fine. It was right there in that text where you selectively copied only parts that justify your insults..
I didn't say it makes you stupid that you need/want only basic scope. But somehow you think you have right to call names people that want/need scope with more analytical capability. All manufacturers should be forbidden to make scopes that you don't approve of. Whoever makes  or uses a scope differently than you think is appropriate is an idiot.. Quite narcissistic and egocentric way of thinking...

If anybody is shill and troll it is you. You are pushing inferior scope by Rigol in a topic that discusses incoming new Siglent scope and it's similarity to SDS2000X HD.
Go sell Rigol somewhere else.

asmi:

--- Quote from: tautech on October 29, 2023, 10:16:19 pm ---Sorry, an honest error.
100 MHz vs 200 MHz pricing

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Ok, fair enough, we'll consider that incident resolved.

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