Siglent SDS1000X HD 12bit DSO's

[tautech]

Can it still run a USB cable or network cable to a PC ? Does it still has the webrowser interface?

1kX HD webrowser via LAN connection works just fine in my simple checks of it thus far.... *IDN? pokes and simple instrument control and the like.
Thanks for your reminder to check USB connectivity with EasyScopeX for example.

[Martin72]

If I was to get the SDS1000HD, I'd probably sell the 1204, then down the road get a higher BW SDS2104Xplus/ I seem to remember it having more options or something over the MSO5000.

Indeed, a combination of SDS1000HD and SDS2104Xplus fully unlocked would be the optimum.
Comparing the MSO5000 against the 2000X+, the rigol lost in several ways.
Not in the features, but in summary, in noise, in bandwith, display size and quality, bode quality, UI, etc..
Actually there is a real hype about the 12bit resolution.
You should ask yourself do I really need the 12bit, if not, you can save money and buy "only" the SDS2104X+.

[cowboy]

when will I be able to buy SDS1102X HD in USA? (and hopefully for the equivalent of 6102 Chinese yuan)

[tautech]

when will I be able to buy SDS1102X HD in USA? (and hopefully for the equivalent of 6102 Chinese yuan)

Projections are in a month or 2 however how long it will be until any of us get them in stock is another matter.

[rf-loop]

Just about freq bw when one channel is on. (SDS1204X HD)

[MathWizard]

So the 200MHz 8-bit sds1204X-E has max 1GSa/s per 2ch pair, and only 14Mpts/ch mem depth. Versus what I read here the 1204XHD is 12bit, same Sa/s, 100Mpts/ch, and both have about the same max wfm/s

And the HD will do math on all 4 channels, and have the bigger screens like the newer 2000 series.

What else will be better ? I assume the FFT will be better.  Will anything be worse or missing ? Will it have the same basic trigger options and serial decoding ?

I really hope some one does a side by side comparison of these to the sds2000Xplus. I wish they all had higher sampling rate, but I guess that's out of my price range, like the 2000HD's

[tautech]

So the 200MHz 8-bit sds1204X-E has max 1GSa/s per 2ch pair, and only 14Mpts/ch mem depth. Versus what I read here the 1204XHD is 12bit, same Sa/s, 100Mpts/ch, and both have about the same max wfm/s

And the HD will do math on all 4 channels, and have the bigger screens like the newer 2000 series.

What else will be better ?

Than the great little X-E ? Much !

I assume the FFT will be better.

 
2 Mpts

Will anything be worse or missing ?

No WiFi.
No NTP server capability as HD has a RTC like X Plus and 2000X HD.
No Logging capability as was later added to X-E.

Will it have the same basic trigger options and serial decoding ?

Yes and all with the later scope UI used in X Plus and all higher models which are touch and mouse capable.

I really hope some one does a side by side comparison of these to the sds2000Xplus.

Defpom will likely get a look at this one and get to compare it against his SDS2000X Plus however not before official release.

Currently we're busy evaluating FW and making suggestions for the release version. 

A couple of screenshots to ponder on.

[MathWizard]

These are sounding very nice, chances are I'll get, even if I keep my X-E, I guess no one's making 8ch models any time soon. I don't really need over the ~250MHz people say these and the X-E are good for, any time soon. Hopefully it will cost less than the sds2104Xplus.

But I'd get the slower version, in the hopes of a hack down the road.

[tautech]

These are sounding very nice, chances are I'll get, even if I keep my X-E, I guess no one's making 8ch models any time soon. I don't really need over the ~250MHz people say these and the X-E are good for, any time soon. Hopefully it will cost less than the sds2104Xplus.

But I'd get the slower version, in the hopes of a hack down the road.

SDS6000L (500 MHz to 2 GHz) are available in 4 or 8 channel versions however you may not like their price.
Interest in their capabilities had us put one in our last order......

[egonotto]

Hello,

8 channel 2 GHz and 500 MHz models are more than twice as expensive as 4 channel models. At 1 GHz 4 channel there is probably a wrong price.

Best regards
egonotto

[loop55]

I bought it on JD.com and it arrived

[loop55]

I bought SDS1074X HD. Does anyone know the method to upgrade the 200MHz bandwidth?

[Martin72]

You are probably the first here, so there are no experiences with the 1kHD so far.
But I guess it could/would be the same as the 2kHD
 

[ojete]

It seems not so similar...

[BillyO]

I bought it on JD.com and it arrived

Did it come with probes and a power cord.  They seem to be extras on jd.com.

The SDS1074X HD would be about $1280 CDN ($953 USD). Not bad at all.  I wonder if that price will be coming here too.

[mawyatt]

Find it amazing that Siglent can offer at this price point, same for low end Rigol HD, altho the Rigol hardware seems good but firmware is lacking.

Sure Siglent's leveraged off the enormous DSO IP investment over the years which kept the direct hardware and firmware original development costs very low, but the recurring BOM component, assembly, and test costs must also be kept very low.

Suspect that Siglent is getting a fallout version of the core 12 bit ADC (lower chip cost), and looks like they've simplified the PCB and Power Supply circuitry. Likely a lower end slower FPGA also, but seems to be using same quality touch screen.

Anyway, hopefully the intro firmware will be more polished than the Rigol, and frequent updates, maybe as good as the SDS2000X+ which we've all been impressed with!! 

So hats off for offering such an interesting version of the higher end HD model at this price point

Best, 

[Martin72]

+1, totally agree to your post.

and looks like they've simplified the PCB and Power Supply circuitry

Fan control is  also missing, but everything else like this were really surprising.

frequent updates, maybe as good as the SDS2000X+

I don´t think so, but it´s not negative meant.

[loop55]

SDS1074X HD I bought it for 5629 RMB ($791), including four oscilloscope probes (70MHz), a power cord, a USB cable, and manuals, etc.

[loop55]

Here is the power supply and fan

[rf-loop]

SDS1074X HD I bought it for 5629 RMB ($791), including four oscilloscope probes (70MHz), a power cord, a USB cable, and manuals, etc.

Yes these JD's  4ch 70MHz version offers looks nice...

But also JD's  4ch 200MHz  version offer is not bad at all... ("618 offer") 9280 RMB

But it must remember that these are consumer prices in China!

If I live now in my second home... perhaps I klick some 1kXHD version order button.....

[pope]

Here is the power supply and fan

"Teledyne Lecroy" 

[tautech]

SDS1074X HD I bought it for 5629 RMB ($791), including four oscilloscope probes (70MHz), a power cord, a USB cable, and manuals, etc.

FYI
Going by a pre-release datasheet we have, 70 MHz models will not be available to the west and from recent past experience, also a prohibited export for China resellers.
1. They will get in big trouble with Siglent if caught exporting.
2. Warranty for 70 MHz models may not be available to the west.

Purchase with caution.....

[Martin72]

Here is the power supply and fan

"Teledyne Lecroy" 

Only the sync. board 😎

[BillyO]

Purchase with caution.....

Personally I would not purchase grey market, however I'm interested in seeing pricing like that make it to this market.

[MathWizard]

SDS1074X HD I bought it for 5629 RMB ($791), including four oscilloscope probes (70MHz), a power cord, a USB cable, and manuals, etc.

FYI
Going by a pre-release datasheet we have, 70 MHz models will not be available to the west and from recent past experience, also a prohibited export for China resellers.
1. They will get in big trouble with Siglent if caught exporting.
2. Warranty for 70 MHz models may not be available to the west.

Purchase with caution.....

So what are the reasons that go into not selling a certain product in other region's? Easier to sell less models? Less red tape ? Or something money related to exports or competition rules??

I guess they all have the same hardware tho.

If these 1000XHD scopes are a fair bit cheaper than the 2104Xplus, it will be hard to resist getting 1. I look forward to some reviews soon.