Siglent SDS1000X HD 12bit DSO's

[Martin72]

With 10" screen and 50 ohms inputs, also probably way better FFT, it's another class.

[tv84]

With 10" screen and 50 ohms inputs, also probably way better FFT, it's another class.

But what about boot time? 

[BillyO]

With 10" screen and 50 ohms inputs, also probably way better FFT, it's another class.

It is in another class, but it's currently looking like nearly twice the price.   That's a lot.

[2N3055]

Given Rigol's agressive pricing of their DHO800/900 scopes are Siglent considering better pricing on this model?

With the DHO900 starting at $600 the Siglent will be keeping dust off the warehouse shelves if they are priced much higher.

It is competing with DHO1000 series. Simple as that.
For instance, DHO800 apparently has only 1 MPoints of memory per channel  in full channel mode as per datasheet, unless it is an error. I'm waiting for someone to confirm that debacle..

[BillyO]

It is competing with DHO1000 series. Simple as that.

Yeah, I guess you're right.

For instance, DHO800 apparently has only 1 MPoints of memory per channel  in full channel mode as per datasheet, unless it is an error. I'm waiting for someone to confirm that debacle..

I think Dave mentioned it has a total of 25MPts.  He didn't expand on how that get's divided up.

[Martin72]

But what about boot time? 

 

[BillyO]

But what about boot time? 

Boot times, boot times
Gimme some of that!
 
Sung to the tune of "Good Times" by the gorgeous Edie Brickell 

[sebyon]

Considering this I wouldn't be surprised if looking at ~1000 USD for the SDS1024X HD, putting it right next to the DHO-1074.

The DHO900 is looking seriously tempting considering the price, but damn I hate black equipment...

[tautech]

With 10" screen and 50 ohms inputs, also probably way better FFT, it's another class.

But what about boot time? 

~30s of the splash screen and ready to use at ~50s.....in this pre release unit. Similar to X Plus.

[BillyO]

Yeah, my SDS2000X+ takes 59 seconds.  It's no big deal.  I usually turn everything on in the morning then go have my breakfast.

[2N3055]

Unless it is less than 5 seconds it's all the same..

[tv84]

I'm thinking about forking www.userbenchmark.com to rank scope boot times. What do you think?

I'm sure we'll have plenty of entries just in this forum. 

[KungFuJosh]

I'm sure we'll have plenty of entries just in this forum. 

I'm sure they'll all be honest too. My scope boots up in -5 seconds! I even think about pressing the power button, and it's on!

[skander36]

RTB2K boot in aprox 9 sec. but I still need to wait 10-15 min. to make a trusted measurement. I don't see an advantage having a so short boot time.  Indeed you have more time to stare at the UI.
Anyone know if SDS1000X HD share the same frontend chipset with the 2000X HD?

[tautech]

I'm thinking about forking www.userbenchmark.com to rank scope boot times. What do you think?

I'm sure we'll have plenty of entries just in this forum. 

Thread from some years back should you feel the need to revive it:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/te-boot-up-times/

[BillyO]

I'm thinking about forking www.userbenchmark.com to rank scope boot times. What do you think?

I'm sure we'll have plenty of entries just in this forum. 

DSO138 - 1.3 seconds! 

[tautech]

I'm thinking about forking www.userbenchmark.com to rank scope boot times. What do you think?

I'm sure we'll have plenty of entries just in this forum. 

DSO138 - 1.3 seconds! 

Then what can you actually do with it ? 

[Martin72]

RTB2K boot in aprox 9 sec. but I still need to wait 10-15 min. to make a trusted measurement. I don't see an advantage having a so short boot time.  Indeed you have more time to stare at the UI.

This is the point.

[BillyO]

Then what can you actually do with it ? 

Well, besides bragging about how fast it boots, it's perfectly fine for the average monkey-see, monkey-do Arduino "maker".  I taught a community evening course a few years back for a couple of years (until the lager lurgy) and I used the DSO138 as a part of the kit.  It was uber cheap back then, but now seems to be creeping up in price.  If I was to do the course again I'd probably spec the DSO154 @ 18MHz with built-in battery and real probe.

So why did I include such a tiny cheap scope?  Well I had to keep the kit price reasonable ($150) and it was sufficient.  If the kit was $600 I would have been alone in the classroom.  Everyone loved it!

[Doctorandus_P]

I'm guessing it's close to launch date now.

I am going to buy a new scope soon, and I noticed that the Siglent  SDS1104X-E now has a 10% discount, both at Eleshop, Welectron and Batronix. At first I thought it was because of the Rigol 12-bitter, but it's more likely it is to give those shops an opportunity to lower their stocks of the old Siglents before the new Siglents arrive.

[adam4521]

I think the 10% is just a seasonal promotion, not linked at all. Telonic have put a banner up to include a few other Siglent products.

[Performa01]

I'm guessing it's close to launch date now.

I am going to buy a new scope soon, and I noticed that the Siglent  SDS1104X-E now has a 10% discount, both at Eleshop, Welectron and Batronix. At first I thought it was because of the Rigol 12-bitter, but it's more likely it is to give those shops an opportunity to lower their stocks of the old Siglents before the new Siglents arrive.

To the best of my knowledge, there are no "New Siglents" competing in this price bracket right now.

Whenever the new low end 12 bit MSO from Siglent will be introduced internationally, it will not compete with the Rigol DHO800/900 series, but the DHO1000 (even though this is not a MSO). It will certainly be more powerful than the current SDS1000X HD available in China.

[rf-loop]

I'm guessing it's close to launch date now.

I am going to buy a new scope soon, and I noticed that the Siglent  SDS1104X-E now has a 10% discount, both at Eleshop, Welectron and Batronix. At first I thought it was because of the Rigol 12-bitter, but it's more likely it is to give those shops an opportunity to lower their stocks of the old Siglents before the new Siglents arrive.

To the best of my knowledge, there are no "New Siglents" competing in this price bracket right now.

Whenever the new low end 12 bit MSO from Siglent will be introduced internationally, it will not compete with the Rigol DHO800/900 series, but the DHO1000 (even though this is not a MSO). It will certainly be more powerful than the current SDS1000X HD available in China.

Nor do I dare or want to express it more directly than Mr Perfoma01 said it..
 

[exe]

RTB2K boot in aprox 9 sec. but I still need to wait 10-15 min. to make a trusted measurement.

How much does it drift?

[Martin72]

A little bit off-topic, but:
It depends on the ambient temperature, to be on the safe side I would follow the recommendation of the manual, the mentioned warm-up time before making a self-cal.