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| nctnico:
--- Quote from: KungFuJosh on August 27, 2018, 01:19:53 am --- --- Quote from: nctnico on August 26, 2018, 08:26:32 pm ---I think the one Dave took apart is a pre-production model. In my GDS-2204E there is only one integrated board (without the add-on boards shown in Dave's video). --- End quote --- That's interesting about the updates, but I'm guessing the difference between your scope and the one in Dave's video is that your scope costs twice as much. I'm not looking to be anywhere near that price range. If I was spending that much I'd probably get stuck buying an R&S just because they're sexy. ;) --- End quote --- The one I have has a bigger screen but the GDS1054B can be hacked nowadays. I don't know if that includes a higher bandwidth but it gives you a pretty complete scope for a reasonable price. |
| Fungus:
--- Quote from: tautech on August 27, 2018, 05:15:04 am ---X-E have a Autoset Undo ! --- End quote --- The Rigol has that, too: (neener neener) One good thing on the Rigol is that after you press it you get a secondary menu that allows you to choose another step on the process, eg. zoom in on a single rising edge - see above. --- Quote from: JS on August 27, 2018, 04:56:45 am ---You won't see the real differences on every day use between the two --- End quote --- Oh, NOW they come out of the woodwork. :box: |
| Fungus:
--- Quote from: JS on August 27, 2018, 08:10:26 am ---I have to go and check every single parameter because I don't know what I'm looking at, so it takes me longer and I understand less than doing it myself. --- End quote --- How is that faster/easier than looking at three numbers on screen? Sounds like lack of practice to me. nb. I almost never use it either, I'm just saying that doesn't sound like a good reason. It certainly does cause a hiccup, a discontinuity or whatever you want to call it, in the mental process. I'm not sure if that's because it locks up the scope for two seconds while it thinks about it whereas with knobs you'd already be in there twiddling. I think the problem is it changes several parameters at once. Maybe it should be divided into auto-vertical and auto-horizontal. It would be nice to have very fine control over it to find a sweet spot. (or maybe it's useful as-is and we all need just to practice more. :popcorn:) |
| JS:
--- Quote from: Fungus on August 27, 2018, 09:15:18 am --- --- Quote from: JS on August 27, 2018, 08:10:26 am ---I have to go and check every single parameter because I don't know what I'm looking at, so it takes me longer and I understand less than doing it myself. --- End quote --- How is that faster/easier than looking at three numbers on screen? Sounds like lack of practice to me. nb. I almost never use it either, I'm just saying that doesn't sound like a good reason. It certainly does cause a hiccup, a discontinuity or whatever you want to call it, in the mental process. I'm not sure if that's because it locks up the scope for two seconds while it thinks about it whereas with knobs you'd already be in there twiddling. I think the problem is it changes several parameters at once. Maybe it should be divided into auto-vertical and auto-horizontal. It would be nice to have very fine control over it to find a sweet spot. (or maybe it's useful as-is and we all need just to practice more. :popcorn:) --- End quote --- It's not just three I think, as it could change the coupling, the adquisition, the memory depth, the display config, the whole trigger setup, and probably a few more and not all of them are displayed in the main screen at first. And not knowing all of those could trick you to belive whats in the display. Also not every scope you come across comes to the same conclusion, or will behave the same way. I decide each one of those parameters based on a few factors, and the process lends me to know what I'm looking at. For instance, using high rea or average is only fine if I first use normal adquisition and all looks fine as averaging will show a better picture and not hide any important information. JS |
| Fungus:
--- Quote from: JS on August 27, 2018, 10:15:01 am ---It's not just three I think, as it could change the coupling, the adquisition, the memory depth, the display config, the whole trigger setup, and probably a few more and not all of them are displayed in the main screen at first. And not knowing all of those could trick you to belive whats in the display. --- End quote --- Yes, I know, I meant how many things you need to look at to re-orient yourself - voltage, frequency, coupling, what else? (and on a Rigol you can tell it not to change the coupling) |
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