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Siglent SDS1104X-E vs. Rigol DS1054Z Advice?
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KungFuJosh:

--- Quote from: wpwrak on August 28, 2018, 09:29:15 pm ---For example the Rigol DS1000CD/D/E series: 1 GSa/s (this is still the same in the entry-level segment today), 1 MSa memory (as one would expect, this has gone up since, 12/24 MSa for the DS1000Z). Decent enough build quality and came with borderline (*) decent PC connectivity (USB), while others had that as an option, RS232, or not at all. (* at least in the 1000CD, it's very slow. I suspect there is a UART-USB translation in the scope.)

CD and D also has digital channels, though at least the CD had so poor signal integrity that you had to be quite desperate in order to try to use it. (I have an 1102CD, which has now been replaced by the Siglent 1104X-E.)

All these had only two analog channels. There was also a four-channel 1000B series, but with short capture memory. The main new features (for the low-cost segment) of the 1000Z were to combine four analog channels with long memory, and to add Ethernet. So it's really just an evolution, but one that hit a sweet spot. And of course the ability to unlock expensive options for free made it incredibly attractive. I think this may have been the real killer feature.

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Right. Evolution that created a niche. None of those models compare to the 1000Z. They were 2ch not 4, none had close to the memory even without the unlocks. Throw all the unlockable features including  deeper memory into the mix, and there was even less competition. I think that puts the competition in a negative somehow. ;)

Now the main direct competitor is the Instek 1054B, which is a little better on paper, and has the added benefit of separate vertical controls. For a few bucks more the Siglent beats them both on paper. That's evolution and competition within the same niche.

I mean, look at Dave's videos. Every time he's torn down a new scope anywhere near that price, he had to compare it to, or comment about the 1054Z.
KungFuJosh:
I finally bought an x100 probe. If anybody else is looking for one, I got the BK Precision PR2000B (2kV 200MHz) on Amazon for $48. They're over $100 everywhere else I looked. And they're red! ;)
bitseeker:
Saweet! :-+
Fungus:

--- Quote from: nctnico on August 28, 2018, 03:44:31 pm ---Rigol didn't invent the low end market! There have been cheap oscilloscopes for decades.

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Sure, and there were automobiles before the Ford model T...

pascal_sweden:
As a side question. How is the noise on the new Rigol DS7000 series? This is much lower han lower Rigol series and Siglent?
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