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Siglent SDS1104X-E vs. Rigol DS1054Z Advice?
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KungFuJosh:
Okay, that all makes lots of sense. I certainly like the idea of the AD2 and all the extra useful features it has for future uses. Besides being better quality, it's more cost-effective than the Siglent addons+required options.

Here's the remaining question between the Rigol vs. Siglent: some of you have convinced me that I will end up using 3 or 4 channels at a time eventually. Even if I'm only using 2, the Siglent does support double the sampling ability when running any level of multi-channels. It seems to me like this should be important in my decision making between the two models?
tautech:

--- Quote from: KungFuJosh on August 24, 2018, 07:18:03 pm ---Here's the remaining question between the Rigol vs. Siglent: some of you have convinced me that I will end up using 3 or 4 channels at a time eventually. Even if I'm only using 2, the Siglent does support double the sampling ability when running any level of multi-channels. It seems to me like this should be important in my decision making between the two models?

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It is but not the only one.
Have you discovered the UI latency in the 54Z ?
You won't experience that in the X-E !
KungFuJosh:

--- Quote from: tautech on August 24, 2018, 07:34:05 pm ---Have you discovered the UI latency in the 54Z ?
You won't experience that in the X-E !

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No, but I'd love to. ;) My uses right now have been hooked up to a tube amp output jack. I'm assuming I'd have to do something fancier to get some screen lag to happen?
Fungus:

--- Quote from: KungFuJosh on August 24, 2018, 07:18:03 pm ---It seems to me like this should be important in my decision making between the two models?

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That's a good question.

Theoretically you don't need it, 2.5x the bandwidth is enough to perfectly reconstruct a signal (Rigol has exactly 2.5x with all channels on).

In practice? I'm not sure how much difference it really makes (screenshots, anybody?)

Remember though: You can turn a couple of channels off on the Rigol to get 1GHz sampling when you really need to look closely at a waveform. That makes this a convenience feature on the Siglent not a showstopper for the Rigol.

And on that note we're right back to, "The Siglent is 40% more expensive so it ought to be at least 40% better/nicer/whatever than the Rigol".


--- Quote from: tautech on August 24, 2018, 07:34:05 pm ---Have you discovered the UI latency in the 54Z ?
You won't experience that in the X-E !

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Don't exaggerate. The only real difference is in the vertical position control and the Rigol works well enough.

(and (b), The Siglent is 40% more expensive, so...)

PS: Have we mentioned how much twiddling is needed to enable a simple on-screen measurement on the Siglent? The Rigol has a nice row of buttons down the left hand side for that.

Here's a reminder:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds1204x-e-released-for-domestic-markets-in-china/msg1526209/#msg1526209



--- Quote from: KungFuJosh on August 24, 2018, 07:45:05 pm ---
--- Quote from: tautech on August 24, 2018, 07:34:05 pm ---Have you discovered the UI latency in the 54Z ?
You won't experience that in the X-E !

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No, but I'd love to. ;)

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Don't miss the Siglent UI apologetic thread above  :popcorn:
KungFuJosh:

--- Quote from: Fungus on August 24, 2018, 08:04:15 pm ---Don't miss the Siglent UI apologetic thread above  :popcorn:

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 :-DD Between the two of you I can't decide which way to go, but at least it's entertaining.

Question: If YOU were running 3 or 4 channels at 100Mhz or better, would you really be satisfied with 250M per channel? I know I'm generally not doing that, but this is a theoretical question. ;)

For that particular instance, the sampling is 200% better for only 40% more $$. Same story for the hacked bandwidth potential (not that I care about that personally at this point). I will read that thread though. I obviously intend this to be a more informed decision than my first purchase.
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