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Siglent SDS1104X-E vs. Rigol DS1054Z Advice?
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tautech:

--- Quote from: KungFuJosh on August 24, 2018, 09:31:05 pm ---Reading the Siglent thread I see two big plusses in the Rigol's favor:

1. the side buttons like you mentioned
2. firmware update simplicity

In the Rigol you just dump the file on the USB and poop it in. The Siglent sounds like extra work for every update.

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Updates are easy.
The zip or rar is unpacked to find a changelog, instructions and the update. Pop the update onto a USB stick, insert into the scope and navigate to it and install.
Done hundreds of them as I dispatch every unit with the latest FW. Only stuff that's been shipped after a new FW version is released needs this treatment.
KungFuJosh:

--- Quote from: tautech on August 24, 2018, 09:57:40 pm ---Updates are easy.
The zip or rar is unpacked to find a changelog, instructions and the update. Pop the update onto a USB stick, insert into the scope and navigate to it and install.
Done hundreds of them as I dispatch every unit with the latest FW. Only stuff that's been shipped after a new FW version is released needs this treatment.

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I don't doubt that they're simple enough, but they require more effort/thought than Rigol. That's a point deduction. ;)


--- Quote from: Fungus on August 24, 2018, 09:53:32 pm ---For the reasons (I tried to explain) above, I wouldn't get too hung up on that number if you're not planning on hacking it to 200MHz.

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Oh, I got what you said. But a plus is a plus is a plus. The feature is there, and the hackability is there. Technically that's two plusses. It's not as heavily weighing my choice as it was thanks to what you said.

The biggest thing now that sways me against the Siglent is that even if I wanted only the AWG add-on, the price difference of the Siglent + the AWG add-on (without the BS "option" cost) is already enough to buy the AD2 with the BNC port package...which obviously is a better choice for me to have the Rigol + AD2 than just the Siglent + AWG only.
tautech:

--- Quote from: KungFuJosh on August 24, 2018, 10:21:31 pm ---
--- Quote from: tautech on August 24, 2018, 09:57:40 pm ---Updates are easy.
The zip or rar is unpacked to find a changelog, instructions and the update. Pop the update onto a USB stick, insert into the scope and navigate to it and install.
Done hundreds of them as I dispatch every unit with the latest FW. Only stuff that's been shipped after a new FW version is released needs this treatment.

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I don't doubt that they're simple enough, but they require more effort/thought than Rigol.
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How so ?
Do the Rigol updates come ready to be installed and not zipped ?
If so, well they don't care about your data package and possible data cap.
Just checked here http://www.rigol.com/Support/SoftDownload/3 and the site's as slow as a wet week to grab a piddle arsed little 1.8MB rar. Still minutes to go FFS.  ::)
If it ever finishes I'll take a look inside it and check what comes with the FW......................still waiting FFS.
Not a good first look !

Pre-release, the X-E's had an optional online FW update facility that was dropped as some felt buyers would be scared off by an 'ET phone home' configuration but it was entirely user driven and made for FW updates to be totally zero hassle. I hope Siglent reinstates this capability and keeps it entirely user configurable.

OK, finally downloaded and the rar contents structure is little different to anything I've ever seen from Siglent.
I'm gunna call 'Myth busted' !
KungFuJosh:

--- Quote from: tautech on August 24, 2018, 10:45:17 pm ---I'm gunna call 'Myth busted' !

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No myth. From your own description of the process, I'd have to go look for, and select the update files on the USB stick on the scope.

On the Rigol you place the firmware in the root of the USB and it auto-detects the file and does the rest after asking you if you want to update. That's less effort.

I don't really care one way or the other, that's not going to sway my decision that heavily.

However, reading through that Siglent thread, a lot of people had issues with updating their firmware or OS. This supports the point in Rigol's favor more. Even if one update wasn't a PIA, the other might fail.
tautech:

--- Quote from: KungFuJosh on August 24, 2018, 10:53:25 pm ---
--- Quote from: tautech on August 24, 2018, 10:45:17 pm ---I'm gunna call 'Myth busted' !

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No myth. From your own description of the process, I'd have to go look for, and select the update files on the USB stick on the scope.

On the Rigol you place the firmware in the root of the USB and it auto-detects the file and does the rest after asking you if you want to update. That's less effort.

I don't really care one way or the other, that's not going to sway my decision that heavily.

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Sure, any instrument is exactly the same if you have an empty USB stick.
The one I use has various folders for all Siglent FW and sub-folders as well so 'navigate' that I used previously is correct if your stick has nothing else on it.


--- Quote ---However, reading through that Siglent thread, a lot of people had issues with updating their firmware or OS.
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:)
Guess how that's fixed: RTFM !
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