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| tautech:
--- Quote from: SimonM on June 13, 2021, 06:55:11 pm --- --- Quote from: tautech on June 12, 2021, 09:04:28 pm ---On both models bottom left of the display is a small round white button that toggles the menus ON and OFF. --- End quote --- Excellent feature. Why have a compromised waveform? So far as I can see, Rigol has soft menus on both LH and RH side without the option to hide them. Menu on/off on Siglent removes menus on the bottom or also on the RHS? Simon --- End quote --- Only the bottom menus can be hidden as they don't show the more important RHS operational settings while the bottom settings show far less important info unless you're documenting screenshots or coming here seeking help where the more settings you can show is more helpful for us to give guidance. --- Quote from: Calvin on June 13, 2021, 11:58:39 am ---regarding handling of the scopes .... only the 4-channel X-E types feature the integrated webserver. I returned a 1202x-E and got a 1104X-E instead due to missing this feature. --- End quote --- Yes this is a trap for some as SDS1202X-E was released before Siglent included webservers in this class of instrument however the 2ch 2 GSa/s 200 & 350 MHz SDS2000X-E series does have a webserver and the Bode plot feature. --- Quote ---A feature I haven't seen any talk about is the preset key which allows to put the scope into a user-configured preset condition or a factory default. Quite useful in education or certain production processes. --- End quote --- Yes we have discussed User Default at length in the SDS1104X-E thread and in various SDS1202X-E threads and it's a feature Siglent use in all their recent release DSO's. It's in the Save/Recall menu and the last item in the Save menu. I would recommend when using it to do a Factory Default before making any preferred settings prior to setting the User Default. I use it frequently to set my preferred scope settings for instant recall with the Default key. |
| kcbrown:
--- Quote from: 2N3055 on June 13, 2021, 08:23:35 am ---It clearly isn't controllable directly. --- End quote --- Hrm, that's disappointing. Not surprising, but disappointing. --- Quote ---That thread with using FY6900 with Siglent scope uses PC in a loop, and a piece of software. Which is great if you happen to already have them both, and you just want the functionality and you don't mind additional effort and equipment being used. --- End quote --- That's most certainly true. Though you might be able to use a Raspberry Pi as the "PC". I've no idea. I've never tried to use it. --- Quote ---Beauty of the Siglent scope + Siglent AWG (not only SAG, but also SDG1000X, 2000X, 6000X) is transparent work in FRA. It simply works. Just connect network or USB. --- End quote --- That is most certainly true as well. Keep in mind that if you're willing to pay about $100 more, then you can get a standalone Siglent unit (the SDG830). It, too, is a single-channel unit. An additional $160 over the SAG1021I gets you the SDG1032X, which has two channels. Frankly, I'd spend the extra money up-front and go for a standalone solution like the SDG1032X. Not only will it be more capable, it'll be more flexible and it is not dependent upon a single scope make/model for its operation. It'll be useful to you even if you decide to move on to some other scope later on. --- Quote ---How important is that to anybody, it's their choice. Some people might decide they don't need the FRA at all and that even a simple analog function generator is enough for them... --- End quote --- Yep. There are a number of options here, each with its own set of tradeoffs. If you don't need the FRA then the options open up enormously. |
| Fungus:
--- Quote from: QuitButton on June 13, 2021, 06:32:13 pm ---This has been suggested to me https://www.sjelectronics.co.uk/brands/gw-instek/gw-instek-gds-1054b-digital-storage-oscilloscope.html I can't honestly say I like how it looks, but the spec is OK for the price. --- End quote --- Yep. It's a very nice little 'scope. Low noise, very fast/responsive, separate controls for each channel... and a proper button to push for the menu selections instead of trying to push a twisty knob. Here's the hacking thread: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/possible-gw-instek-gds-1000b-hack/ (nb. all the serial decoders, etc., are included as standard these days but you can hack the bandwidth) |
| SimonM:
--- Quote from: tautech on June 13, 2021, 08:11:19 pm ---Only the bottom menus can be hidden as they don't show the more important RHS operational settings while the bottom settings show far less important info unless you're documenting screenshots or coming here seeking help where the more settings you can show is more helpful for us to give guidance. --- End quote --- I have the spec sheet and the manual for X-E and X-U and for the small increase in price the X-E is a no-brainer (US is about $100 difference and here in the UK it's £50). The manual shows the menu on/off but the operation isn't described. It makes perfect sense that it turns the menu at the bottom on/off and it's close to that area too. I couldn't find anything to suggest that the X-U has less capable processing capability (it would have been nice to know that they didn't save a few cents on this) - I get it that the input is simplified and doesn't have a second sampling chip. At this price point sampling with two chips is cool. So pretty much sold on the idea of an X-E. I can see that the X-U will be an option if the budget was for 2 channels because it's a small increase to go to 4-channels. I get that there is a hack for setting it at 200MHz BW, perhaps there are downsides to doing that? I read that the supplied probes rated at 100MHz are actually quite good ones, so no need to rush to replace them even with the hack (I was nervous about doing it but if it's reversible, why not?). Simon |
| bdunham7:
--- Quote from: SimonM on June 13, 2021, 11:58:58 pm ---I get that there is a hack for setting it at 200MHz BW, perhaps there are downsides to doing that? I read that the supplied probes rated at 100MHz are actually quite good ones, so no need to rush to replace them even with the hack --- End quote --- There is no downside to the hack and you get more than bandwidth--USB WiFi for one. There's also MSO (if you buy the adapter) and external AWG (if you buy one) but those options aren't too exciting. The included probes have excellent bandwidth, but I wouldn't call them 'good'. They're cheap-ish and not very durable, so I'd say they're 'OK'. Not that I am complaining--at the price of the scope they really can't include $200 worth of probes. You'll want to scour eBay for your own specific probes anyway--switchable 1X/10X probes are sort of amateur hour anyway. |
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